How to Divide Complex Numbers in a Balanced Load Star Connected Circuit

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The discussion centers on the process of dividing complex numbers to find the current in a balanced load star connected circuit, specifically with a given line voltage of 400V at 50Hz. Participants explore methods for performing this division, including both rectangular and polar forms of complex numbers.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks if the current can be found by dividing the phase voltage (approximately 230V) by the complex impedance (4+j3 ohms) and seeks clarification on dividing normal numbers with complex numbers.
  • Another participant explains the division process by multiplying by the conjugate of the complex number, providing a detailed calculation that results in a current of 36.8 - j27.6 amps.
  • A different approach is suggested, converting the complex impedance to polar form, resulting in a current of 46 amps at an angle of -36.87 degrees.
  • Several participants seek clarification on the meaning of the values obtained, specifically questioning whether the 27.6 represents an angle and inquiring about the magnitude of the current.
  • One participant emphasizes visualizing the current as a right triangle to understand the magnitude and angle better, using Pythagorean theorem for calculations.
  • Another participant suggests converting everything to the phasor domain for division, indicating a different method of approach.
  • A moderator notes the thread's relocation to Homework Help, reminding participants to consider the nature of the question and the appropriateness of their responses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods for dividing complex numbers and finding current, with no consensus on a single approach. There are differing opinions on the interpretation of the results, particularly regarding the angle and magnitude of the current.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and interpretations of the results, particularly concerning the angle and magnitude of the current derived from the complex division.

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When finding the current in a 4+j3 balanced load star connected circuit. with 400V line voltage at 50Hz.

Do you find the current by dividing the phase voltage approx. 230V by 4+j3 ohms?

and if so. how do you divide normal numbers with complex numbers?

your help is appreciated.
 
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You put the 230 volts over 4 + j3 then multiply by 4 - j3 over 4 - j3. (You can multiply anything by 1 and it stays the same.)

So, the top line becomes 920 - j690

The bottom line becomes 16 + 9 (because J = sqrt of -1 ). =25

Dividing by 25, Current = (36.8 - J 27.6) amps

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Another way is to convert to polar notation.

4 + j 3 is 5 ohms at an angle of +36.87 degrees { 5= SQRT(16 + 9) 36.87 = tan-1 of 3 on 4}

so divide 230 by 5 and take the angle to the top line as a negative

so the current is 46 amps at an angle of - 36.87 degrees.
 
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you mentioned in the first part of the question that the current is 36.8-J27.6 =

is the 27.6 the angle?

and what is the 46A magnitude?

cheers
 
davidcowling said:
you mentioned in the first part of the question that the current is 36.8-J27.6 =

is the 27.6 the angle?

and what is the 46A magnitude?

cheers


no, just flip the complex number to polar form
 
Dividing by 25, Current = 36.8 - J 27.6 = 46 amps magnitude.

This was just a crosscheck on the second part.
The magnitude is sqrt ( 36.8 * 36.8 + 27.6 * 27.6) =46 amps
The angle of this is the inverse tan of -27.6 / 36.8 which is -36.87 degrees.

I find it helps to picture this as a right angled triangle with sides of 36.8 and 27.6 with the right angle between these.
The magnitude is the length of the 3rd side of the triangle. This works out to be 46. (you get this with Pythagoras's Theorem)
The angle is the angle between the 46 and the 36.8 sides of the triangle.
 
Convert everything to the phasor domain and carry on division as usual in the phasor domain.
 
Thread moved from EE to Homework Help.

Please be careful, folks, responding to misplaced questions like this one. Ask youself if it might be a misplaced homework/coursework question, and if it could be, then most likely it will get moved out of the general technical forums, and the normal HH rules apply. So the OP should be doing all of this work, not you guys.
 

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