How to Find Maximum Compression of a Spring on a Ramp?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a block sliding down a frictionless ramp and compressing a spring. The context is within the subject area of energy conservation and mechanics, specifically focusing on potential energy and spring compression.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of potential energy equations and the quadratic formula to find the maximum compression of the spring. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of variables and the physical interpretation of maximum compression.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's equations and calculations, suggesting that there may be errors in the setup. Questions about the meaning of terms and the physical scenario are being explored, indicating an ongoing dialogue without a clear resolution.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions of variables and the correct application of energy conservation principles. The original poster's calculations have not yielded satisfactory results, prompting further inquiry into the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 5 kg block is placed near the top of a frictionless ramp, which makes an angle of 30o degrees to the horizontal. A distance d = 1.3 m away from the block is an unstretched spring with k = 3000 N/m. The block slides down the ramp and compresses the spring. Find the magnitude of the maximum compression of the spring.



Homework Equations


quadratic equation ax+bx-c
h=d+xsintheta
PE=mgh=mg(d+x)sintheta
PE=1/2kx

mg(d+x)sintheta=1/2kx
0=1/2kx+-mg sintheta +-mgd sintheta
ax+bx-c


The Attempt at a Solution



What i did was plug in the numbers into the quadratic equation and i thought that is all that i had to do.. and the answer is still not correct. if someone could please help me out that would be appreciative =)
 
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Your formula for PE is wrong. PE=1/2kx2.
You have to solve your quadratic equation of form ax2+bx+c=0.

ehild
 
I just tried figuring it out once again..

a=1500
b=48.463
c= 63.002


so then i used the quad equation to solve for X


x= -b +- squareroot b2-4ac / 2a

and x comes out to either be

x= .0506461
x= -.0829547

then i put it back into the equation
PE=.5(k)(x)

and i tried both.. one i got around 3 and the other i got around 10

what else am i doing wrong that i can't figure this out?
 
What does it mean "maximum compression of the spring"? And what is "x" for?

ehild
 

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