How to Find Subpages Without Links?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for discovering subpages on a website that are not linked from the main pages. Participants explore various techniques and tools for uncovering these hidden pages, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects of web navigation and indexing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that guessing subpage names could be a method, but acknowledge it would be inefficient.
  • One participant argues that knowledge of the website's file structure is necessary to find subpages effectively.
  • Another participant describes the technique of "backwhacking" a URL to access directory listings, contingent on server configurations allowing it.
  • A participant mentions using Google search queries to find pages that may not be linked from the main site but are indexed elsewhere on the internet.
  • Concerns are raised about the likelihood of Apache servers allowing directory listings in modern web practices.
  • Participants express confusion regarding the specifics of how to implement some of the suggested methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of the proposed methods, and there are competing views regarding the feasibility of accessing hidden subpages.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependency on server configurations, the potential for directory listings to be disabled, and the variability in how different websites manage their file structures.

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I'm wondering if there's a way to find all the subpages on a website even if the mainpages don't have any links to them. I bet you could keep guessing the names of the subpages but that would take forever.
 
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patrickbotros said:
I'm wondering if there's a way to find all the subpages on a website even if the mainpages don't have any links to them. I bet you could keep guessing the names of the subpages but that would take forever.
I don't think there is a way to do this without knowing the file structure of the web site.
 
You can sometimes find files by "backwhacking" a URL, that is, entering partial URLS corresponding to (sub)directories (folders), with a slash at the end. If an Apache server is configured to allow directory listings and a directory does not contain an index.html file (or whatever other files the server recognizes as "index files" e.g. index.php), this will give you a listing of the files in that directory.

However, if the directory contains an index.html or similar file, you will always get that. If the directory listings are disabled, and there is no index.html, you will get an "access denied" message or something similar.
 
An additional really simple tool for finding pages on a site is to do a search like:
"doctor who" site:physicsforums.com
on Google. Google will index pages not linked to on the main page if they are linked to elsewhere on the net, so if a page here talked about Doctor Who and was not indexed from any page, it could still show up if another page linked to it. (Edit: At least they used to, I haven't tried it lately)
 
jtbell said:
You can sometimes find files by "backwhacking" a URL, that is, entering partial URLS corresponding to (sub)directories (folders), with a slash at the end. If an Apache server is configured to allow directory listings and a directory does not contain an index.html file (or whatever other files the server recognizes as "index files" e.g. index.php), this will give you a listing of the files in that directory.

However, if the directory contains an index.html or similar file, you will always get that. If the directory listings are disabled, and there is no index.html, you will get an "access denied" message or something similar.
How?
 
jtbell said:
If an Apache server is configured to allow directory listings
Unlikely in this day & age.
 
patrickbotros said:
How?

How what, exactly? :oldconfused:
 

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