How to interpret complex solutions to simple harmonic oscillator?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of complex solutions in the context of the simple harmonic oscillator, specifically addressing the implications of complex coefficients in the solutions and their relation to physical reality. The scope includes theoretical aspects and mathematical reasoning related to the equation of motion and boundary conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation of motion for a simple harmonic oscillator and questions the physical meaning of complex solutions, particularly whether only the real part is of interest.
  • Another participant asserts that both the real and imaginary parts are solutions to the differential equation, noting that real initial values lead to real solutions with specific relationships between constants A and B.
  • A different participant suggests that linear combinations of basis solutions can yield real-valued solutions, indicating that complex constants can facilitate this process.
  • One participant emphasizes the necessity of matching solutions to boundary conditions, which constrains the results of the physical problem.
  • Another perspective is introduced, stating that solutions are sought such that x(t) remains real, leading to constraints on the complex coefficients and ensuring that the initial conditions are satisfied with real values.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the role of complex solutions, with some agreeing on the necessity of real solutions and the relationships between constants, while others explore the implications of complex coefficients. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the interpretation of complex solutions.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the nature of the coefficients and the conditions under which the solutions are considered valid. The discussion also highlights the dependence on initial conditions and boundary constraints without resolving these aspects.

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Consider the equation of motion for a simple harmonic oscillator:
##m\ddot {x}(t)=-kx(t).##​
The solutions are
##x(t)=Ae^{i\omega t}+Be^{-i\omega t},##​
where ##\omega=\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}##, and constants ##A## and ##B##. Physically, what does it mean for a solution to be complex? Is it only the real part that is of interest or also the imaginary part? Of course, using Euler's formula, the solution can be rewritten as
##(A+B)\cos{(\omega t)}+i(A-B)\sin{(\omega t)},##​
and one can introduce new, complex constants. However, there is still the issue of a real and imaginary part with that representation.
 
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Both the real and imaginary parts are solutions to the differential equation by construction. If you put in real initial values, your determined constants ##A## and ##B## will result in a real solution (i.e., their sum will be real and their difference imaginary - in other words ##B = A^*##).
 
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You can form linear combinations of your basis solutions to get real values solutions in terms of sine and cosine. That can form your new basis if you wish.

Edit: and your constants A and B can be complex in order to make this happen.
 
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Of course at some point your solution to a physical problem must be matched to boundary conditions in space and time. That will constrain the actual result .
 
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Another way to think about it is to say that you only look for solutions with ##x(t) \in \mathbb{R}##. That constrains the "allowed values" for the complex coefficients of you solution to ##B=A^*##. You get still the complete solutions for the real differential equation, because the complex coefficient ##A=A_r + \mathrm{i} A_i## consists of the two real numbers ##A_r## and ##A_i##, which can be used to satisfy the real (!) initial conditions ##x(0)=x_0 \in \mathbb{R} ##, ##\dot{x}(0)=v_0 \in \mathbb{R}##.
 
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