How to interpret parametric equations

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The discussion revolves around interpreting parametric equations, specifically focusing on the equations x=cos(t) and y=3sin(t) for the interval 0 < t < π/2. Participants are tasked with eliminating the parameter to describe the resulting shape in terms of x and y, as well as identifying the center, radius, and orientation of the curve.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for eliminating the parameter, with some attempting to express y in terms of x. Questions arise about the correctness of the initial problem setup and the nature of the resulting curve.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the parametric equations. Some have provided insights into the orientation of the curve by suggesting the evaluation of specific t values, while others are questioning the initial assumptions regarding the shape represented by the equations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted correction regarding the parameters, with one participant admitting to a typographical error in the equations. The implications of this correction on the previous analyses are being considered.

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Homework Statement


Eliminate the parameter to find a description of the following circles or circular arc's in terms of x and y
and find the center and radius and indicate the positive orientation

x=cos(t) , y = 3sin(t) ; 0< t < pi/2 (should be less than or equal to)

Homework Equations


Not sure?

The Attempt at a Solution


When I find t = arccos(x) I then plug it in y=3 sin(t) and I result in
y= sqrt(9-x^2)

The book doesn't even give an answer for the equation part but it does tell me the origin, and radius and the
orientation but I figured you could rewrite my equation to y^2 + x^2 = 9 and that tell me the radius of 3 (sqrt (9) right?) then the orgin is 0,0 because nothing it being done to the x and y

but here is what trips me up, how do they know it is the lower half of a circle going counter clockwise? I mean it has to do something with the t's but I just don't see it.
 
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TheKracken said:

Homework Statement


Eliminate the parameter to find a description of the following circles or circular arc's in terms of x and y
and find the center and radius and indicate the positive orientation

x=cos(t) , y = 3sin(t) ; 0< t < pi/2 (should be less than or equal to)

Homework Equations


Not sure?

The Attempt at a Solution


When I find t = arccos(x) I then plug it in y=3 sin(t) and I result in
y= sqrt(9-x^2)

The book doesn't even give an answer for the equation part but it does tell me the origin, and radius and the
orientation but I figured you could rewrite my equation to y^2 + x^2 = 9
No. y2 + x2 = (3 sin(t))2 + (cos(t))2 = 9sin2(t) + cos2(t). Are you sure you wrote the problem correctly?
TheKracken said:
and that tell me the radius of 3 (sqrt (9) right?) then the orgin is 0,0 because nothing it being done to the x and y

but here is what trips me up, how do they know it is the lower half of a circle going counter clockwise? I mean it has to do something with the t's but I just don't see it.
Based on what you wrote in the problem description, your curve is not a circle.
 
I solved for t and pluged it in for x. Yes I am positive I wrote it down correctly.
 
I should probably mention this is a parametric equation? I am sure you are correct, I may have gotten the right answer by doing something incorrectly by coincidence. Not the first time I've done that :P
 
TheKracken said:
I solved for t and pluged it in for x. Yes I am positive I wrote it down correctly.
Please show what you did to get ##y = \sqrt{9 - x^2}##. Your mistake is in that work.

The parametric equations x = cos(t), y = 3sin(t) do NOT represent a circle.
 
To find the orientation, put t = 0 and t = pi/2 (or put more points if you'd like), and see which way you're going.
 
I want to apologize, I did type the equation incorrectly, it is 3cos(t). I was looking at the next problem it looks like when I typed it out, but my work was for this problem.

In that case is my work correct?
 
Instead of solving for t in one of the parametric equations, I would eliminate the parameter directly. Since (now) x = 3cos(t) and y = 3sin(t), x2 + y2 = ?

Keep in mind that ##0 \leq t \leq \pi/2##. As t increases from 0, what do the points on the curve do? What is the starting point (i.e., when t = 0)? What is the ending point (when t = ##\pi/2##)?
 

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