What is parametric representation and how is it used

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The discussion revolves around the concept of parametric representation in calculus, specifically in relation to the equation of a circle, X^2 + Y^2 = 9. Participants are exploring how to convert between implicit, explicit, and parametric forms, and the relevance of these representations in mathematical contexts.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the definition and application of parametric representation, questioning the rules governing its use and the necessity of this approach in calculus. Some suggest looking into polar coordinates as a related concept.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and suggesting resources for further exploration. Some have offered guidance on related topics, such as polar coordinates, while others have pointed to external resources for additional examples and explanations.

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Participants express confusion over the clarity of explanations in their textbooks and suggest alternative resources for understanding parametric equations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic as it relates to higher-level calculus concepts.

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Ive been working through calculus this year and will be into next year, and as nearly every time I open my calculus book I have found something new and mysterious. This time it's something called parametric representation.

It isn't clearly explained what this means or how you go about converting between implicit/explicit and parametric forms.

An example of what my book is giving me.
X^2 +Y^2 = 9 is the equation of a circle with center at the origin and radius equal to 3.
If [theta] is the angle that the radius to the point (x,y) on the circle makes with the x axis, find the parametric representation of the circle in terms of [theta].
What rules govern this subject?
Why do I need it?
How and when do I use parametric representation?
Many thanks in advance.
 
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ArmChairPhysicist said:
Ive been working through calculus this year and will be into next year, and as nearly every time I open my calculus book I have found something new and mysterious. This time it's something called parametric representation.

It isn't clearly explained what this means or how you go about converting between implicit/explicit and parametric forms.

An example of what my book is giving me.
X^2 +Y^2 = 9 is the equation of a circle with center at the origin and radius equal to 3.
If [theta] is the angle that the radius to the point (x,y) on the circle makes with the x axis, find the parametric representation of the circle in terms of [theta].
What rules govern this subject?
Why do I need it?
How and when do I use parametric representation?
Many thanks in advance.
A parametrization of a curve ##C## (or a straight) by a parameter ##t## (loosely associated with "time") is a "walkthrough", a "path". You have to find a (continuous) function ##p : I \longmapsto C## where ##I \subseteq \mathbb{R}## is an interval, it's often ##I = [0,1]\, , \,t=0## the staring point and ##t=1## the end point of the path ##p(t)##. This means, that to every point of the curve ##C## there is a point in time (or a few), where the path is at this point.

In the case of your example, ##C## is the circle and it isn't "time" here, but the angle ##t=\theta## that measures your path. For the interval you can take ##I=[0,2\pi ]## or ##I=\mathbb{R}## depending on how often you want to circle.

Why do you need it? Well, e.g. it's the general concept that defines a motion along a curve. You use it each time you drive your car. A path can divide regions into interior and exterior parts, can be used to speak of the length of a curve, and many more. Some are of mathematical interest like "path connected points", but many more of physical, as it is motion and basically defines what can be reached and what can not.
 
ArmChairPhysicist said:
Ive been working through calculus this year and will be into next year, and as nearly every time I open my calculus book I have found something new and mysterious. This time it's something called parametric representation.

It isn't clearly explained what this means or how you go about converting between implicit/explicit and parametric forms.

An example of what my book is giving me.
X^2 +Y^2 = 9 is the equation of a circle with center at the origin and radius equal to 3.
If [theta] is the angle that the radius to the point (x,y) on the circle makes with the x axis, find the parametric representation of the circle in terms of [theta].
What rules govern this subject?
Why do I need it?
How and when do I use parametric representation?
Many thanks in advance.

If you do not understand something in your book, look in another book---or nowadays, go on-line and use Google. For example, if I Google the key words "parametric equation" I get immediate (free) access to hundreds of articles giving lots of examples. Your exact example is explained in detail in many of the articles.
 
ArmChairPhysicist said:
X^2 +Y^2 = 9 is the equation of a circle with center at the origin and radius equal to 3.
If [theta] is the angle that the radius to the point (x,y) on the circle makes with the x axis, find the parametric representation of the circle in terms of [theta].

That sounds like Calculus III. If possible, I'd go one step further and look up "polar coordinates".
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
That sounds like Calculus III. If possible, I'd go one step further and look up "polar coordinates".
ArmChairPhysicist said:
Ive been working through calculus this year and will be into next year, and as nearly every time I open my calculus book I have found something new and mysterious. This time it's something called parametric representation.

It isn't clearly explained what this means or how you go about converting between implicit/explicit and parametric forms.

An example of what my book is giving me.
X^2 +Y^2 = 9 is the equation of a circle with center at the origin and radius equal to 3.
If [theta] is the angle that the radius to the point (x,y) on the circle makes with the x axis, find the parametric representation of the circle in terms of [theta].
It means that you write the x and y coordinates in terms of r and theta. See figure.
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