Parametric equation of a particle in a circular trajectory

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The problem involves finding parametric equations for a particle moving in a circular trajectory with a radius of 3 meters, starting at the coordinates (0, -3) when time t=0. The discussion centers around the correct formulation of these equations in relation to the period of the motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial attempts to derive the parametric equations, with one suggesting x = -3sin and y = -3cos. Questions arise regarding the period of the motion and its implications for the equations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct form of the parametric equations, with some participants confirming similar results. Clarifications are being sought regarding the relationship between the period and the parameters used in the equations. Visual aids and plotting suggestions have been introduced to assist understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a potential oversight in the original problem statement regarding the period, which is stated to be 4. There is also a suggestion to plot values in radians for better clarity.

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You are given a particle, with the trajectory of a circle, with radius of 3 meters. The particle moves clock-wise, and when t=0, the x, y coordinates are (0, -3). Find parametric equations for the coordinates (x, y) in terms of the parametric t (time).

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My attempt at a solution was to plot the circle with the given points. I was able to determine that x = -3sin, and that y = -3cos. I know that period equals 2 pi / B, but I'm not sure what to do here for the last part of the trig equations.

Edit: Just remembered that the period should be 4. So, B = pi/2.

Would the correct parametric equations be

x = -3sin(pi/2) t
y = -3cos(pi/2) t
 
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I got the same result.
 
leo255 said:
Edit: Just remembered that the period should be 4
Was this something that you forgot to put in the original problem statement? Otherwise, there is nothing in the problem statement that says anything about the period.
 
You have a circle ##x^2 + y^2 = 9## of radius ##3## which passes through the point ##(0, -3)## at ##t = 0##.

The parametrization you have given is on the right track.

Replace the ##\frac{\pi}{2}## you have there with the ##t## you seem to have left out of the argument.
 
Thanks all for the help. Still slightly confused about why we replace pi/2 with t. Isn't the period equal to 4, since both trig functions complete their shapes in t = 4?
 
leo255 said:
Thanks all for the help. Still slightly confused about why we replace pi/2 with t. Isn't the period equal to 4, since both trig functions complete their shapes in t = 4?

You're probably better off plotting in radians rather than plain numbers.

Try finding values of ##x(t)## and ##y(t)## for the points ##t = 0, \frac{\pi}{2}, \pi, \frac{3 \pi}{2}, 2 \pi##.

Do those points match up to your circle over in the ##(x, y)## plane?

What can you conclude?

Edit: Out of boredom I created this useful MATLAB session to assist the visualization. Here is a parametric plot of ##x(t)##, ##y(t)## where I've chosen some useful points to plot:

Screen Shot 2014-12-13 at 7.02.58 PM.png


Simply rotating the picture so that the ##(x, y)## plane is in your front view, you can see the points in the plane:

Screen Shot 2014-12-13 at 7.00.41 PM.png


In fact, allowing the interval ##[0, 2 \pi]## to become dense, you obtain something like this:

Screen Shot 2014-12-13 at 7.08.36 PM.png
 
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Thank you! That makes a lot more sense. The visuals help a lot.
 

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