How to lift water out of a pool

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work required to lift water out of a pool, given parameters such as the pool's dimensions, depth of water, density, and gravitational acceleration. The problem is situated within the context of calculus, specifically integration, as it involves determining the work done against gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force, volume, and work, questioning the appropriate distance for lifting the water. There are discussions about using integration to find the work done and clarifications on the formula for work in a gravitational field.

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Some participants have attempted integration and shared varying results, indicating a mix of approaches being explored. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with some guidance provided regarding the use of density and gravitational force in calculations.

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Participants note discrepancies in their calculations and the need for clarity on the distance the center of mass of the water must be lifted. The discussion reflects a learning process with attempts to reconcile different methods and assumptions.

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Homework Statement


given, diameter and height of pool, depth of water, density of water and gravitational acceleration.
g = 9.8
height is 4m
2r = 20m
depth of water = 3.5m
density =1000kg/m^3
So, I'm supposed to find how much work is needed in joules to lift the water out of the pool.

Homework Equations


could I use density times gravity times volume to get my force?
is my distance for my water to travel 4.5m?


The Attempt at a Solution


Anyways, I've tried to use my volume for the pool and the volume I have of water * density *gravity to come up with my force and then used 4.5m as my distance to come up with my work needed to lift water out of a pool. I ended up with 1.08E7 joules but that's incorrect so any help would be appreciated.

BTW, this is a cal 2 problem/integration problem
 
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if it is a cal2/integration problem why aren't you doing any integration? do you know the formula for work?
 
Use the volume of the water and the density to get mass. It would appear that the pool is a right circular cyliner.

Rasining a mass m some distance h in a gravity field producing a local acceleration g increases the potential energy by mgh.
could I use density times gravity times volume to get my force?
Yes

is my distance for my water to travel 4.5m?
Well that depends, if one is lifting the CM of the pool water 4 m or (4 m + 1.75 m) or 5.75 m, which is 4 m from the top of the pool.
 
I've tried integrating it and I've tried astronuc's advice with no success, any ideas?
 
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I'm retarded, integration works. Alright, so with a mixture of the advice, correct answer is 2474002 joules. Thanks again fellas.
 
weight density = 9800 N/m^3

work = integral {0 to 3.5} (9800)(pi*10^2)(4 - y)dy

work = 2.4 * 10^7 Joules
 

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