What is the Derivative of a Swimming Pool with a Sloping Bottom?

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The problem involves a rectangular swimming pool with a sloping bottom, where the depth varies from 1m to 5m. Water is being pumped into the pool at a rate of 30 m³/min, and the volume of water in the pool is expressed as a function of the depth at the deep end, denoted as V = 25h². The goal is to determine the rate at which the water level is rising when the depth is 3m.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss differentiating the volume function with respect to time and height. There are attempts to relate the rates of change of volume and height. Some participants question the notation and steps taken in the differentiation process.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process and the relationships between the variables involved. Some participants have provided guidance on how to differentiate the volume equation, while others are clarifying notation and correcting misunderstandings. Multiple interpretations of the differentiation steps are being discussed.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, including the specific rates of water being pumped into the pool and the defined volume function. There is an emphasis on ensuring correct notation and understanding the relationships between the variables.

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Homework Statement



A rectandular swimming pool is 10m wide and 20m long. The bottom of the pools is a sloping plane with the depth of the pool varying along the length of the pool from 1m at the shallow end to 5m at the deep end. Water is being pumped into the pool at the rate of 30 m^3 / min. Shat that the total volume of water in the pook when the depth of thewater at the deep end is hm (where 0 \leq h \leq 4) satisfies

V = 25h^2

Hence find the rate at which the water level is rising when the water is 3m deep at the deep end.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Equation to describe volume at h...

When 4m full, the 'length' filled by the water is 20m, therefore..

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> V &amp;= \frac{1}{2}LHW\\<br /> &amp;=\frac{1}{2}(5h)(h)(10)\\<br /> &amp;=(2.5h^2)(10)\\<br /> &amp;=25h^2\\<br /> \end{align*}<br />

Then, i tried to differentiate this expression to find h' (difference in height), but this came to 0.

Ideas?
 
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Say what? If V(h)=25h^2 then \frac{dV}{dh}=50h. So \frac{dV}{dt}=?
 
Is the final answer 1/150 m/s?
 
I'm a newb but I'll try to help -_-.

Try differentiating V=25h^2 with respect to t. Since you know dV/dt and h, you can figure out the answer.
 
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V=25h^2

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> differentiated<br /> &amp;=\frac{dV}{dt} (25h^2)\\<br /> &amp;=\frac{dV}{dh}(25h^2) \frac{dh}{dt}\\<br /> &amp;=(50h) \frac{dh}{dt}\\<br /> \frac{dh}{dt} &amp;= 50h\\<br /> sub. in value for h to find dh/dt\\<br /> \frac{dt}{dh} &amp;= 50(3)\\<br /> \frac{dt}{dh} &amp;= 150\\<br /> \frac{dh}{dt} &amp;= 1/150\\<br /> \end{align*}<br />
 
Does that look even a little bit right to anyone?
 
Not right.

For one thing, it looks like you are writing \frac{dV}{dt}(25h^2) when you mean \frac{d}{dt}(25h^2).

Here is better notation.

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \frac{dV}{dt}&amp;=\frac{dV}{dh}\frac{dh}{dt}\\<br /> &amp;=\frac{d}{dh}(25h^2) \frac{dh}{dt}<br /> \end{align*}<br />

What's next?
 
<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> &amp;= 50h \frac{dh}{dt} \\<br /> \end{align*}<br />

Then move dh/dt over to the other side, where it is 'dividing', i.e \frac{1}{\frac{dh}{dt}} = 50h

so

\frac{dt}{dh} = 50h

but we want dh/dt, so needs to be rearranged,

\frac{dh}{dt} = \frac{1}{50h}

then I subbed in 3 for H to get 1/150
 
Yes, now write it as part of an equation. Then what?
 
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I editted above post ^^ Accidently hit reply before I was finished.
 
  • #11
No, in your first step, the other side is not "1." What is the other side?
 
  • #12
dV/dt? and does that = 30?
 
  • #13
Bingo
 
  • #14
Thanks for all the help!

Ta muchly!
x
 

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