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How to machine a NPT internal thread?

  1. Nov 23, 2009 #1
    I want to tap a NPT (NPT-3/4) thread hole on a plate. And I found some related standards, these standards told me the detailed dimensions of the thread. My question is how to machine the NPT thread with a tap? How to control the parameter mentioned in the standards?
    thanks in advance!
     
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  4. Nov 23, 2009 #3
    Make sure you drill the hole to the appropiate size before using that tap. I think it is 59/64 but you better double check me.
     
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  6. Nov 23, 2009 #5
    Jasongreat
    thanks.what kind of hole does it need? Do I need to drill a taper hole?
     
  7. Nov 24, 2009 #6
    Just a regular round hole,just try to make sure you drill perfectly perpendicular(a drill press or mill will work best), the 59/64 measurement should be right about the size of the minimum diameter of the tap, as you screw the tap in it will cut the threads and the taper all at once. A t-handle makes it easiest, but a crescent wrench will work though. Make sure to use plenty of oil, they make some exclusively for cutting threads but I usually just use WD-40. Make sure the tap is absolutely perpendicular to the plate in the hole and twist. As you are cutting you should cut(clockwise) for a turn or so then back it off(counter-clockwise) to break the cut material loose. Take your time and you will have a perfectly tapped 3/4" npt hole when done. If the plate is mild steel it will be the easiest, aluminum is softer so it will cut like butter but it will also be easier to rip out the cut threads ruining the piece, and stainless will work harden very easily if it get hot at all making it a chore. Good luck.
     
  8. Nov 24, 2009 #7

    FredGarvin

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    Depending on how close you want to hold to those dimensions, you will have to look into standard gauge rings/plugs to make sure you are to spec.
     
  9. Nov 24, 2009 #8
    I'm not sure what parameter you mean.
    NPT is a tapered pipe thread.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread" [Broken]
    That means it's made to guarantee interference at some depth.
    Usually the pipe will be wrapped with teflon tape to seal it as well.

    You can use a drill press and rotate the chuck manually to get it perpendicular but that's seldom critical with piping.

    You tap the proper sized hole (get the tapping chart somewhere) to a certain depth and try the pipe. If it doesn't penetrate far enough, tap some more until it does. It will stop hard when the tapers jam.

    Did that help any?
     
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  10. Nov 24, 2009 #9
    Jasongreat,thanks very much.
    one question is what the screw depth should be appropriate for the given NPT thread? you know, the NPT thread is a taper thread, if the screw depth is different, the major diameter of the end of thread is not the same.
     
  11. Nov 24, 2009 #10

    FredGarvin

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    What table did you get your "dimension" from? There are plenty of pipe tap charts out there that list length to hand tight and wrench take up lengths. I have posted them a couple of times on here. Do a search and you'll find them.
     
  12. Nov 24, 2009 #11
    I care about the NPT dimensions(major/pitch diameter of the end of thread). in fact, I need to control the srewed depth of the NPT fitting. So the parameter of NPT thread should be controled as precise as we can. So I wonder how the NPT thread is machined and how to control the quality.
     
  13. Nov 24, 2009 #12
    Benchtop, thanks for your help.
    how to determine the certain depth? is there any calculation method?
     
  14. Nov 24, 2009 #13
    FredGarvin, thanks.
    my question is: how to control the parameters of NPT thread during the machining process?

    I have got the table of the NPT thread. I need to tap a NPT thread on a through hole and then screw a NPT fitting into it. if the major diameter of the end of the NPT thread hole is not stable, NPT fitting's engagment is varible. for example, if the end of the NPT thread hole's major diameter is larger than the parameters given in the standards, the engagement of NPT fittings should be bigger than normal.
     
  15. Nov 24, 2009 #14
    I'm not real clear on what you're trying to do, but the basic control in pipe threading is length of engagement, and there are several ways to arrive at that. Are you trying to control depth of engagement in some precise way?
     
  16. Nov 24, 2009 #15

    yes. I am trying to control the depth of the engagement precisely. could you please give me some suggestion? I have no idea about that.
     
  17. Nov 24, 2009 #16

    FredGarvin

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    What you need are pipe tap plug gages. You tap the hole to a certain depth, remove the tap, clean out the hole and then run the go-no go gage into the hole. If the gage says you are good then you are done. If not, you either tap the hole farther or scrap the part because you went too deep.

    http://www.thegagestore.com/docs/Ho...d_Accessories-How_to_Use_NPT_Thread_Gages.htm

    Also

    http://www.alphathreadgage.com/refsheets/REFthrdsPIC.htm#internal
     
  18. Nov 24, 2009 #17
    thanks, FredGarvin
    I think I need the gage to control that NPT thread.
     
  19. Nov 24, 2009 #18

    Integral

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    Start tapping threads in scrap, learn how to get what you need by trying.
     
  20. Nov 24, 2009 #19
    According to the pipefitters handbook, which can be found at google books, in section 4 it starts explaining threaded fittings. Some pages are missing so I hope the info you need isnt on one of those pages, my copy is in storage so I cant reference it. In section 4 part 10 it states that the depth of the threads will be .55 inches, engagement of threads when tightened by hand is .34 inches and when fully engaged will be 9/16ths of an inch. There is all the info you will ever need to fit a pipe properly contained in the book you may want to check it out. There is also a plumbers pipe fitters handbook there.
     
  21. Nov 25, 2009 #20
    Jasongreat
    thanks very much. I will check it out soon.
     
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