How to make simple transformer?

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The discussion centers around the construction of a simple transformer capable of stepping up voltage from 3V to 12V. Participants explore various methods, materials, and considerations related to transformer design, including the type of voltage supply and the use of different transformer configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using laminated transformer cores, specifically C-cores, with a primary winding of about 50 turns and a secondary of 250 turns, noting that extra turns may be needed to account for voltage loss.
  • It is emphasized that the supply voltage must be AC, as simple transformers do not function with DC, although other devices can step up DC voltage.
  • One participant proposes using a transformer designed for 110V to 30V, suggesting it could be used in reverse to step up 3V AC to approximately 11V AC, while noting that a 110V to 27.5V transformer would be ideal but potentially harder to find.
  • Another suggestion involves using an autotransformer configuration with a transformer that has taps for 3V and 12V, highlighting that this method does not provide isolation between the terminals.
  • Alternatives include using two transformers, connecting their high voltage primary windings together, or modifying an old transformer by adjusting the number of turns to achieve the desired voltages.
  • Participants raise questions about the frequency of the AC supply and the power requirements for the load, indicating that these factors may influence the design.

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Participants express various approaches and considerations for building a transformer, but there is no consensus on a single method or design. Multiple competing views and suggestions remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention complexities related to the frequency of the AC supply and power requirements, which may affect the transformer design. There are also unresolved considerations regarding the isolation of terminals in certain configurations.

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Please help me..
how to make simple transformer to 3V up to 12V
 
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BsJ SandeepA said:
Please help me..
how to make simple transformer to 3V up to 12V
In the class room we do this using laminated transformer cores called C-cores. They clip together to form a ring and the diameter is about 5cm. I remember that a primary of about 50 turns and a secondary of 250 turns will be about right. There is always a slight loss of voltage due to leakage so you need a few extra secondary turns as I have suggested. If you try to do it using nails or rods it does not work very well.
 
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Remember that your supply voltage must be AC, (and your output will be AC too)
A simple transformer doesn't work for DC, although there are more complicated devices that can step up DC to higher voltage.
 
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rootone said:
Remember that your supply voltage must be AC, (and your output will be AC too)
A simple transformer doesn't work for DC, although there are more complicated devices that can step up DC to higher voltage.
thanks for your help
 
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How accurate do you need? How much power?

Lets say you are in a country that uses 110V. You might be able to buy a 110V to 30V transformer (4:1) quite easily. In which case you might be able to use it backwards (1:4) to step up 3V AC to around 11V AC. Ideally you want a 110 to 27.5V transformer to give you 12V but they might be harder to find than a 30V.
 
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BsJ SandeepA said:
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how to make simple transformer to 3V up to 12V
1. You might find a transformer with taps on the secondary for 3V and for 12V. Insulate the primary terminals and then use it as an autotransformer. It will not isolate the 3VAC and 12VAC terminals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransformer

2. Consider using two transformers, a 3VAC and a 12VAC. Connect their high voltage primary windings together, then use the 3VAC windings as the input and the 12VAC as output.

3. Get an old transformer and remove the windings, keep the thicker secondary wire to reuse. Transformers usually have about two turns per volt, so put 24 turns as the 12VAC secondary, then add 6 turns on as the 3VAC primary. If you do not need isolation you could make an autotransformer by tapping 6 turns on the secondary as the primary.

There may be some complexities.
What frequency is the AC?
What power in watts is needed at the load?
To transform DC you need a DC to DC converter.
 
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