How to plot this region in (x,y) space

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The discussion revolves around sketching the region defined by the inequality max(|x|,|y|) ≤ 1 in the (x,y) coordinate plane. Participants explore the implications of the absolute value and the maximum function in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the inequality and how to interpret the maximum function with respect to independent variables x and y. Questions arise about the comparison of |x| and |y|, and how to visualize the resulting region.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between x and y, with some participants providing insights into how to graph the boundaries of the defined region. While some clarity has been achieved, there remains a sense of uncertainty among participants regarding the plotting process.

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Hi everyone

I need some help with an elementary problem...I have to sketch the region described by

[tex]max(|x|,|y|) \leq 1[/itex]<br /> <br /> I know what max and mod (absolute value) mean but I'm just troubled because of the occurrence of [itex]|y|[/itex]. Any help would be appreciated...<br /> <br /> PS--This is <b>not</b> homework.<br /> <br /> Thanks and cheers<br /> Vivek[/tex]
 
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This is just the desciption of the square of 2unit side length, centered in (0,0). Usually in that kind of formalism, (x,y) are describing the coordinates of a point on a "ideally" flat infinite plane...In your case you just take all points for which -1<=x,y<=1 which is separated into -1<=x<=1 and -1<=y<=1, because there is no relationships between x and y given here.
 
Thanks.

The thing is..how do you reconcile with the occurrence of [itex]|y|[/itex]?? I mean...how are you to compare the two operands? Are x and y independent variables in the two orthogonal directions?

I know that

[tex]max(x,y) = \frac{x+y}{2} + |\frac{x-y}{2}|[/tex]

Does this fit in somewhere?
 
Yes, x and y are independent...you just compare as the max functions say : max(x,y)=x if x>y and max(x,y)=y if y>x...you could do : max(|x|,|y|)<=1 equiv. to |max(x,y)|<=1 and with your formula : [tex]\frac{1}{2}|x+y+|x-y||<=1[/tex]
 
I'm sorry I'm somewhat dumb...I can't see how I can plot the max of two independently varying numbers...some more spoonfeeding needed. :biggrin:
 
If |x|< |y| then max(|x|,|y|)= |y|. Graph |y|= 1.
If |y|< |x| then max(|x|,|y|)= |x|. Graph |x|= 1.

Those two graphs form the boundary of the region. Now do you see what the region is?
 
Great. Thanks! I see it now :smile:

I realize how dumb I've been throughout this thread! :cry:

Anyway thanks for all your help.

Cheers
Vivek
 

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