How to Resolve a Vector into Parallel and Perpendicular Components?

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The original poster seeks to resolve the vector 6i+2j-2k into two components: one that is parallel and another that is perpendicular to the vector i+j+k. The discussion revolves around understanding the geometric interpretation of vector operations, particularly the dot product, and how it relates to resolving vectors into components.

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  • Participants explore the geometric meaning of the dot product and its implications for vector resolution. Some suggest that the original poster clarify their understanding of scalar projections and the conditions for perpendicularity and parallelism in vector components.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the dot product and its relationship to vector components. There is an exchange of ideas about how to approach the problem, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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Participants are discussing the mathematical definitions and properties of vectors, particularly in the context of homework constraints that may limit the methods available for resolving the vector components.

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Homework Statement


Resolve the vector 6i+2j-2k into two vectors, one parallel and another perpendicular to i+j+k


Homework Equations


a\cdot b = 0 \; \text{for two perpendicular vectors}

a=\lambda \;b\;\text{for parallel vectors} , \lambda = \text{parameter}


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea to start. How to resolve one component of vector into two components ?

Thanks
 
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Have you learned about the geometrical meaning of dot product?
I.e. if I drew v = 6i+2j-2k and w = i+j+k for you, could you explain to me how v · w appears in the picture?
 
CompuChip said:
Have you learned about the geometrical meaning of dot product?
I.e. if I drew v = 6i+2j-2k and w = i+j+k for you, could you explain to me how v · w appears in the picture?

I don't think that he can give you geometrical interpretation because dot product is just a scalar and not vector.
Although, he can give you the scalar projection of v onto w.

And do you mean to resolve 6i+2j-2k = c + d ?

If so, let c be the vector parallel to and d perpendicular to the vector (1,1,1) i.e i+j+k

(cx,cy,cz)=\lambda(1,1,1)

and do you know what d will equal to? What are the conditions of the task?Regards.
 
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songoku said:

Homework Statement


Resolve the vector 6i+2j-2k into two vectors, one parallel and another perpendicular to i+j+k


Homework Equations


a\cdot b = 0 \; \text{for two perpendicular vectors}

a=\lambda \;b\;\text{for parallel vectors} , \lambda = \text{parameter}


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea to start. How to resolve one component of vector into two components ?

Thanks
Okay, so a vector parallel to i+ j+ k must be \lambda i+ \lambda j+ \lambda k. Suppose ai+ bj+ ck is the vector perpendicular to that. Then you have (ai+ bj+ ck)\cdot(\lamba i+ \lambda j+ \lambda k)= a\lambda+ b\lambda+ c\lambda= \lambda(a+ b+ c)= 0 and (ai+ bj+ ck)+ (\lambda i+ \lambda j+ \lambda k)= (a+\lambda)i+ (b+\lambda)j+ (c+ \lambda)k= 6i+ 2j- 2k. That gives you four equations to solve for a, b, c, and \lambda.
 
Hi CompuChip, Дьявол, and Mr. HallsofIvy

I get it now. Sorry, but I have another simple question. What is the meaning of dot product ?

It's easier for me to imagine cross product. If we cross two vectors, we will get third vector that is perpendicular to the previous two vectors.

But, what about dot product ? If we dot 2 vectors, we get a numerical value, What does the numerical value represent?

Thanks
 
As I was taught, the dot product is where you only consider the part of the second vector being multiplied that is parallel to the first vector.
 
songoku said:
Hi CompuChip, Дьявол, and Mr. HallsofIvy

I get it now. Sorry, but I have another simple question. What is the meaning of dot product ?

It's easier for me to imagine cross product. If we cross two vectors, we will get third vector that is perpendicular to the previous two vectors.

But, what about dot product ? If we dot 2 vectors, we get a numerical value, What does the numerical value represent?

Thanks

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Dot_Product.svg/300px-Dot_Product.png

And the dot product is A • B = |A| cos(θ) |B|

|A| cos(θ) is the scalar projection of A onto B.

So you got the part down there, just you multiply it with the magnitude of B.

Regards.
 
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Hi Дьявол and mg0stisha

Wow, now I get the meaning of dot product. Thanks a lot to all of you ! (CompuChip, Дьявол, MR. HallsofIvy, mg0stisha) ^^
 

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