How to separate CO2 into C and O2

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Discussion Overview

The thread discusses methods for separating carbon dioxide (CO2) into carbon (C) and oxygen (O2), exploring various theoretical and practical approaches, energy requirements, and implications for applications such as space exploration and global warming mitigation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that separating CO2 into C and O2 requires significant energy, referencing the energy involved in combustion processes.
  • One participant proposes using plants to convert CO2 into carbohydrates, which could then be processed to release oxygen.
  • Another approach mentioned involves heating CO2 over a catalyst, such as iron doped zeolite, in the presence of hydrogen to produce water and ethylene, although efficiency is questioned.
  • Some participants discuss the potential of using electrolysis to separate CO2, but the feasibility and energy costs are debated.
  • A participant mentions a chemical reaction used in submarines to recycle CO2 and release O2, indicating a specific method that could be relevant.
  • There are suggestions of using activated charcoal in CO2 scrubbers, but clarification is provided that these do not release oxygen.
  • Several participants express skepticism about unconventional methods, such as using tweezers or lasers to separate carbon and oxygen, questioning their practicality and scientific basis.
  • One participant raises the idea of mixing CO2 with another substance to facilitate separation, indicating a desire to explore alternative chemical reactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views on the methods and feasibility of separating CO2 into C and O2. There is no consensus on the best approach or the efficiency of proposed methods, and participants express varying levels of skepticism regarding unconventional techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to energy requirements, efficiency of proposed methods, and the practicality of certain techniques. Some discussions also touch on the need for advanced technology in space applications.

  • #31
DrStupid said:
How about the Boudouard reaction as a second step:

1. 2 CO2 -> 2 CO + O2
2. 2 CO -> CO2 + C

Sure, if your goal is to produce carbon. The carbon would likely foul the catalyst though and since the Martian atmosphere has plenty of CO2 already, there is no advantage to the second step IMO. The design of the reactor might need to be such that this reaction is prevented from happening.
 
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  • #32
chemisttree said:
Sure, if your goal is to produce carbon.

According to the title of this thread it is.
 
  • #33
DrStupid said:
According to the title of this thread it is.

Of course it is but you were responding to my post which featured links where the final carbon-containing species was CO (as I indicated).
 
  • #34
In radiocarbon dating one reduces carbon dioxide e.g. with iron and hydrogen gas to elemental carbon. You could freeze out the water formed in that process from the hydrogen stream and separate it by electrolysis. Net result would be the analysis of carbon dioxide into carbon and oxygen.
 
  • #35
chemisttree said:
Of course it is but you were responding to my post which featured links where the final carbon-containing species was CO (as I indicated).

And because CO is only half the way to carbon I suggested a second step to complete the separation of CO2 into C and O2.
 
  • #36
DrStupid said:
And because CO is only half the way to carbon I suggested a second step to complete the separation of CO2 into C and O2.

Doh! You're right. That would address the OP's original question.
 

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