How to Solve a Related Rates Problem Involving a Moving Box and Truck

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The problem involves a related rates scenario with a box and a truck, where a rope connects the two through a pulley. The setup includes specific measurements for the height of the pulley and the position of the truck, as well as the speed of the truck moving away from the pulley. The original poster seeks assistance in setting up the variables necessary to approach the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the geometric relationships involved, with some attempting to define variables and equations based on the triangle formed by the pulley, box, and truck. Questions arise regarding the number of variables needed and the implications of the box's height at a specific moment.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and attempting to clarify the relationships between the variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Pythagorean theorem and differentiation, but there is still uncertainty about the correct setup and the significance of the box's height.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the dynamic nature of the triangle formed by the box and the pulley, particularly in relation to the changing height of the box and how it affects the calculations. There is also mention of the specific conditions given in the problem that may influence the approach.

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1) (Related Rates) One end of a rope 20 meters long is attached to a box resting on the floor. The other end is passed over a pulley directly above the box, 5 meters above the floor, and attached to the back of a truck at a point 1 meters above the ground. The truck then drives in a straight line away from the pulley at a speed of 0.5 m/s. At what speed is the box rising when the top of the box is 2 meters above the ground?


I really don't get this problem. I can't even start doing the calcultions because I am not sure how to set up the variables in the problem...can someone please give me some guidelines/hints?

Thanks a lot!
 
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It's a triangle: (not to scale)
Code:
Pulley
 |\
4| \15
 |__\Truck
1| X
Box
With dx/dt=0.5
 
But this is a "related rates" problem, so I believe that there should be more than 1 variable...but I can't figure out where and how to put in the second (or third) variable...
 
Let y be the distance from pulley to the angle opposite 15. Then you have x^2 + y^2 = 225, 2xdx + 2ydy = 0. Then plug in? Will that work?
 
But it says "At what speed is the box rising when the top of the box is 2 meters above the ground?", does it matter that it's 2 meters above? It is higher than the baseline of the triangle...
 
Solve for dy/dt
 
I am quite lost...

If I let y to be the distance from pulley to the angle opposite 15, the box would be somewhere within the line, not at the bottom end of the line...

When the box is 2 meters above, it is higher than the baseline of the triangle...how can I use Pythagoras when the triangle is not fixed? This is the part that I really don't get...

Can anyone please help me? Thanks!
 

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