How to Solve a Second-Order Differential Equation with Constants h and j?

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation of the form d²y/dx² = -hy/j, where h and j are constants. Participants are exploring the nature of the solution for y in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the form of the solution, suggesting it may involve exponential functions. There are inquiries about the argument of these exponentials and the constants involved. Some suggest considering complex arguments and relate the solution to sine and cosine functions.

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The conversation is active, with various approaches being explored regarding the form of the solution. Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the differential equation and known function forms, while others are questioning the specifics of the constants and their implications.

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There is an acknowledgment that this problem is part of a larger assignment, and some participants express familiarity with standard results from differential equations, indicating a shared background knowledge among contributors.

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d²y/ dx² = - h y / j

where h, j are constants. What's y?
 
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This on its own is not actually a question in my assignment but it is a starting point I need to get the problem done.
 
Can you think of a function whose second derivative is proportional to it?
 
I know y is an exponential function with a multiplication constant out the front, just not sure what the argument of the exponential is.
 
Actually I know it's going to be the sum of two exponentials with different multipliation contants and one will have the negative argument of the other.
 
In other words I know it's in the form

y = Aexp(c) + B exp (-c), just not sure what the c is.
 
Since, the derivative is respect to x, why not try [itex]kx[/itex] where [itex]k[/itex] is a constant (it may be complex) for your argument? In fact, the general solution has two terms [itex]y(x)=Ae^{kx}+Be^{-kx}[/itex]. When you plug this into your DE, what do you get?
 
and k = sqrt (- h/j)?

so it is a complex argument as I was expecting because a complex exp can be written in terms of sines and cosines, whose 2nd derivative is their own negative.
 
Yes, exactly so you may as well write [itex]y(x)=Csin(\frac{h}{j}x)+Dcos(\frac{h}{j}x)[/itex]
 
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Thank you, gabbagabbahey.
 
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This is a ay''+by'+cy=0 problem which has been discussed to death on every DE book. One should be able to write down the results (when b^2-4ac>0,<0 and = 0) while sleeping.
 

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