How to Solve Nonhomogeneous Euler Equations with Absolute Values?

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The discussion revolves around solving a nonhomogeneous Euler equation of the form (x^2)y'' + 4xy' - 40y = x^6, with initial conditions y(1) = 10 and y'(1) = 1. Participants are exploring methods for finding both the homogeneous and particular solutions, particularly focusing on the challenges posed by the nonhomogeneous term and the presence of absolute values.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using variation of parameters for the particular solution and question whether this is the appropriate method given the nonconstant coefficients. There is also a suggestion to consider a polynomial form for the particular solution, with one participant proposing a guess of the form Ax^6.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on different approaches. Some express confidence in their intuitive guesses for the particular solution, while others seek clarification on the use of variation of parameters and how to handle absolute values in the integrals.

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There is uncertainty regarding the treatment of absolute values in the integrals involved in the variation of parameters method. Participants are also navigating the specifics of solving a nonhomogeneous Euler equation, which may not be thoroughly covered in their textbook.

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Homework Statement


Solve the IVP

(x^2)y'' + 4xy' - 40y = x^6

for y(1) = 10, y'(1) = 1

Homework Equations


not so much "equations" but here I try to use variation of parameters to get the particular solution.

The Attempt at a Solution



FOR THE HOMOGENEOUS SOLUTION:
using the substitution y = x^r I get a characteristic equation of

r^2 - 3r -40 = 0
so,
(r-8)(r+5) = 0

and then, the homogeneous solution will be

yh = c1|x|^8 + c2|x|^-5

FOR THE PARTICULAR SOLUTION:

Here is where I run into trouble. I'm unsure of how this part is usually done, but I'm guessing that since the original problem does not have constant coefficients, we are ofrced to use variation of parameters (can someone confirm this? It seems right to me but maybe there's a trick I'm missing here).

so, first I get the wronskian, which is the determinant of this 'matrix':

|x|8 |x|-5
8|x|7 -5|x|-6

I get -5|x|2 - 8|x|2 = -13|x|2

then here's my main problem (or maybe my problem is earlier -- not sure if I'm doing this right). I get to the variation of parameters part, and there's two integrals I have to do:

integral of |x|8x6 divided by 13|x|2

and integral of |x|-5x6 divided by 13|x|2

here is where I get confused: how do I deal with the integrals with absolute values? Did I do something completely wrong or is there something I'm not seeing? Is there some way to avoid this mess? Thanks for any help, my textbook never gets into the specifics of how to deal with an euler equation when it isn't homogeneous
 
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Why not try the particular solution of:
<br /> y_{p}=a_{1}x^{6}+a_{2}x^{5}+a_{3}x^{4}+a_{4}x^{3}+a_{5}x^{2}+a_{6}x+a_{7}<br />
 


2 things:

1) I looked at this intuitively and just thought "well, why not just guess Ax^6 because I'll just have 3 things multiplied by x^6 on the LHS afterward"? And it worked out. It makes perfect sense.

2) To hunt_mat: now that I read your post, is this what you're getting at?
 


S.N. said:
2 things:

1) I looked at this intuitively and just thought "well, why not just guess Ax^6 because I'll just have 3 things multiplied by x^6 on the LHS afterward"? And it worked out. It makes perfect sense.

That is exactly what to do.
 


S.N. said:
2 things:

1) I looked at this intuitively and just thought "well, why not just guess Ax^6 because I'll just have 3 things multiplied by x^6 on the LHS afterward"? And it worked out. It makes perfect sense.

2) To hunt_mat: now that I read your post, is this what you're getting at?

It was exactly what I was getting at.
 

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