How to use the graph of the distance between any two points

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The problem involves finding an expression for the distance between a fixed point P(1,2) and a variable point on the curve defined by y = √x. Participants are tasked with graphing this distance as a function of x and using the graph to identify the x-coordinate of the closest point on the curve to point P.

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  • Participants discuss the expression for distance and the implications of the graph. Questions arise about how to interpret the graph to find the minimum distance without using derivatives.

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Some participants have identified a specific x value where the distance is minimized and confirmed its correctness. There is an exploration of how precision was achieved in determining this value, with references to graphing software used for analysis.

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There is an assumption that derivatives will not be used in this context, which influences the approach to finding the minimum distance. The discussion also notes the presence of a single minimum in the graph, suggesting a focus on that aspect of the distance function.

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Homework Statement



Write an expression for the distance between the point P(1,2) and an arbitrary point ( x, \sqrt{x} ) on the curve y = \sqrt{x}. Graph this distance versus x, and use the graph to find the x-coordinate of the point on the curve that is closest to the point P.

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Well, here's the expression I wrote for the distance:

d = \sqrt{ (x - 1)^2 + ( 2 - \sqrt{x} )^2 }

I've graphed this on a graphic software. Now, how can I use this graph to answer the question? What do I have to look for on the graph?
 
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Since this is the in the pre-calculus forum I'll assume you won't be using derivatives, so you'll be finding an approximate solution to the shortest distance.

When you graphed the distance versus x, at what (approx) x value is the distance the shortest? In other words, where is d the smallest?
 
d is smallest when x is approx equal to 1.35296

The answer is correct as given at the back of the book.

Yes, I didn't want to use derivatives for this question; but if I were to use derivatives, I would have differentiated the function and equated it to zero, and then would've solved for x, right?

EDIT: Also note that in the graph there's only one minimum and no maximum extrema, so differentiating twice won't be necessary.
 
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Yes that's correct :smile:

May I ask how you found that answer with such precision?
 
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Yes that's correct :smile:

May I ask how you found that answer with such precision?

I used a graphing software to create the graph, and then I zoomed in many times on the part of the graph where d was the smallest. I used http://www.walterzorn.com/grapher/grapher_app.htm".
 
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