How to Wire a Toggle Switch and LED Indicator for a 110V Electric Motor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around wiring a toggle switch and LED indicator for a 110V electric motor, specifically addressing the need for a solution that prevents the motor from being left on unintentionally. Participants explore various options for components, safety considerations, and installation methods.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a wiring diagram and specifications for a toggle switch and LED indicator suitable for a 110V motor.
  • Another suggests using a neon bulb instead of an LED due to its higher current and voltage capability.
  • Some participants discuss whether to use a toggle switch or a circuit breaker, considering the high current involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the qualifications required to modify electrical installations and the potential hazards of doing so without proper expertise.
  • One participant proposes using a lighted, switched power strip rated for the motor as an alternative solution.
  • There are questions regarding the safety and suitability of using power strips in a machine shop environment, particularly regarding moisture and potential hazards.
  • A participant suggests placing the switch on the motor side of a transformer to reduce voltage and current exposure.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of purchasing a pre-packaged switch and indicator set for easier installation.
  • Links to suppliers and specific product ratings are shared, indicating options available for the components needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the best approach to wiring the switch and indicator, with no consensus reached on a single solution. There are differing opinions on the safety and practicality of using power strips versus direct wiring.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of adhering to safety regulations and the need for qualified personnel to perform electrical modifications. Concerns about the environment in which the equipment will be used are also noted, including potential hazards from moisture and debris.

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In the machine shop where i work they have a coolant system that runs separately from the CNC machine. As of now, they simply plug in the motor and it turns on, however they often forget to unplug it at the end of the day. I need to wire a toggle switch and and LED indicator for when the motor is on. I need a simple diagram of how to wire in the switch and LED, and i need to know what size (voltage/amperage) of switch and LED to use so they arent burned out by the 110v. PLEASE HELP!
 
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You would normally use a neon bulb rather than a LED, you can buy indicator bulbs with a built in resistor that you just connect across 110V
 
yeah that's what I am seeing on other sites, seems a neon has a much higher current and voltage cpability. As far as the switch goes, should i use a toggle switch or a circuit breaker dince there is high current running through it? thanks by the way, really appreciate the help!
 
The neon or LED (with appropriate resistor) would need to be rated for 110V but would draw only a small current. The switch or circuit breaker would need to be rated correctly for the motor concerned.

Having said that, only appropriately qualified personnel should modify electrical installations. Such work should only ever be done according to the relevant laws and regulations. In most circumstances, you would need to be a qualified electrical engineer or electrician to be allowed to do what you are suggesting.

A suitably qualified person would not need to ask how to go about this task, so please do not try to do this yourself. In addition, you must not tamper with equipment which is not your property without consent of the owner, or whoever is in charge of it at your work. If you can persuade your employer that this is a good idea, perhaps he/she can get a qualified electrician to do the job?
 
I was thinking that he could use a simple lighted, switched power strip that is rated high enough for his motor. Just plug it in. No problem.
 
Switch strips with shuttering & IP rating OK to cope in an environment with soluble oil emulsion splashing everywhere, and swarf / metal chips flying about?

Is the switch on that strip OK to break a motor of unknown rating, perhaps quite inductive and inclined to make the switch arc?
OK for use by an operator with wet hands, perhaps standing on wet concrete floors?

Then, is the pump on a wall socket in the first place? This is best left to the experts, I think
 
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Oops, sorry, on re-reading the original post it says that:
...they simply plug in the motor and it turns on,...
I have to admit therefore that a plug-in adaptor would be possible, but it still doesn't seem a good idea.

Apart from the points already mentioned, what about the extra length of trailing cable? Machine shops are dangerous places already without introducing an extra trip hazard.
 
im not going to be the one doing the install, they just asked me about what switches and lights to use. i suggested a power strip but they want something on the machine or closer to the door so they can see it when they leave. the outlet itself is rather hidden from view. i mostly deal with small power electronics and sometimes like to be sure when dealing with 110v. what about putting the switch on the other side of the transformer on the motor, there would be less current and voltage on the motor side of it.
 
CalTech1 said:
yeah that's what I am seeing on other sites, seems a neon has a much higher current and voltage cpability. As far as the switch goes, should i use a toggle switch or a circuit breaker dince there is high current running through it? thanks by the way, really appreciate the help!
Toggle, properly packaged, is fine. You should probably be able to buy the switch and indicator as a pre-packaged set. The breaker on the other end of the wall plug is fine for fault interruption.
 
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A completed package would be ideal for install, where do you suggest getting these? I 've checked with our suppliers and they have nothing of the sort.
 
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thanks for everything, i think i have what i need to give the guys now.
found a rocker switch with a built in neon next to it, rated at 125VAC and 16amps from action-electronics.com
 

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