How to Write arcsin in Log Form for Integration

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The problem involves integrating the function \(\int \frac{arcsin(e^x)dx}{e^x}\), which is situated within the context of calculus, specifically integration techniques involving inverse trigonometric functions.

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  • Participants explore various substitutions and transformations, including expressing arcsin in logarithmic form and using trigonometric identities. There are attempts to rewrite the integral using different variables and functions, such as \(u = e^{-x}\) and \(u = sec \theta\).

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The discussion includes multiple approaches to the integral, with participants providing suggestions and corrections. Some participants question the correctness of transformations and the signs in the integration process, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the best method.

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There are indications of potential sign errors and suggestions to simplify expressions, as well as a note about a participant mistakenly posting in the thread. The complexity of the integral and the various transformations suggest a need for careful consideration of assumptions and definitions involved in the integration process.

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It seems to that i went wrong way.

Homework Statement



[tex]\int \frac{arcsin(e^x)dx}{e^x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]=-\frac{arcsin(e^x)}{e^x}+\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1-e^{2x}}}[/tex]


[tex]\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1-e^{2x}}}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1-e^{2x}}}+\int \frac{xe^{2x}dx}{(1-e^{2x})^{\frac{3}{2}}}[/tex]
 
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Ever thought about writing arcsin in log form (the inverse function of sin when sin is written in complex numbers), that way something might happen between the logs and the exp's. I haven't tried it, so I don't know, its just a suggestion.
 
Here is the another way I tried.
[tex]u=e^{-x}[/tex]
[tex]-\int arcsin(\frac{1}{u})du=-\int arccsc(u)du=-uarccsc(u)-\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{u^2-1}}[/tex]
 
Than for
[tex]u=sec\theta\rightarrow du=\frac{sin\theta d\theta}{cos^2\theta}[/tex]
 
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[tex]\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{u^2-a}}=-\int\frac{d\theta}{cos\theta}[/tex]
But I don't know,actually,how to integrate last one.:frown:
 
[tex]-\int\frac{d\theta}{\cos{\theta}}[/tex]

trig identity

[tex]-\int\sec{\theta}d\theta[/tex]
 
Ok,than please check everything.
[tex]\int \frac{arcsin(e^x)dx}{e^x}[/tex]

[tex]u=e^{-x}[/tex]

[tex]-\int arcsin(\frac{1}{u})du=-\int arccsc(u)du=-uarccsc(u)-\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{u^2-1}}[/tex]




[tex]u=sec\theta\rightarrow du=\frac{sin\theta d\theta}{cos^2\theta}[/tex]

[tex]=-uarccsc(u)+\int\sec{\theta}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]=-uarccsc(u)+ln|sec\theta+tan\theta|[/tex]

[tex]=-e^{-x}arccsc(e^{-x})+ln|e^{-x}+e^{-x}\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{e^{-2x}}}|[/tex]
 
Sorry,I've posted answer to another question here.
 
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Post 7, you made a sign error. Suddenly the sec integral becomes positive...other than that, the answer is fine, but it would look nicer if you took the e^(-x) under the sqrt sign in the log, as the argument of the log is always positive anyway, no need for absolute value signs.
 

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