How to write taylor series in sigma notation

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The discussion revolves around writing Taylor series in sigma notation, specifically for functions such as sinh(x), ln(x+1), sin(x), and 1/(x-1). The original poster expresses confusion about how to approach these problems, particularly in converting their findings into sigma notation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of deriving Taylor series for various functions and express uncertainty about the representation in sigma notation. Questions arise regarding the alternating signs in the series and the derivation of coefficients.

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Some participants have shared their attempts at deriving Taylor series and have provided insights into the structure of the series. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the series in sigma notation, with participants questioning specific aspects of the notation and the reasoning behind certain terms.

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The original poster mentions a time constraint due to an upcoming exam and indicates that they have not covered this material in class, which may affect their understanding of the topic.

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My Calc II final is tomorrow, and although we never learned it, it's on the review.
So I have a few examples. Some I can figure out, some I cant.

Examples: f(x)=sinh(x), f(x)=ln(x+1) with x0=0, f(x)=sin(x) with x0=0, f(x)=1/(x-1) with x0=4
The only one of those that I was able to figure out was sinh(x). The rest I don't get. I don't need someone to show me how to do all of them, but maybe just show me how to do these types of problems in general using one of those as an example?

I am really just completely lost here. I could definitely use some help.
Thank you!
And sorry if I did something wrong in terms of posting this thread, I have never used Physics Forum before.
 
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I'd be interested in knowing how you got sinh(x) and couldn't get sin(x). They are really pretty similar. Are you having trouble representing the alternating sign?
 
My bad...I actually did get sin(x)!
Okay, maybe I should be more specific.
f(x) = 1/(x-1), x0=4
f'(x) = -1/((x-1)^2)
f"(x) = 2/((x-1)^3)
f'''(x) = -6/((x-1)^4)

Plugging in 4:
f(x) = 1/3
f'(x) = -1/9
f"(x) = 2/27
f'''(x)=-6/81

So the taylor series is 1/3 + -(x-4)/9 + 2(x-4)^2/54 + -6(x-4)^3/486...

Now I just found in my notes that the format for sigma notation should be the sum from n=0 to infinity of the n-th derivative of f(a) * (x-a)^n/n!
But I just have no idea how to take that taylor series and get it into that format.
I think my brain is dead from doing too much math :(
 
Okay well the answer to that last one should be (-1)^n * (x-4)^n / 3^(n+1)
I get the (-1)^n (because the signs are alternating) and I get the (x-4)^n. But what I do not get is where the 3^(n+1) is coming from.
Also, how do you know when do use (-1)^n and when to use (-1)^(n+1)? What's the difference?
 
haflanagan said:
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Also, how do you know when do use (-1)^n and when to use (-1)^(n+1)? What's the difference?
(-1)n is positive for even n, negative for odd n.

(-1)n+1 is positive for odd n, negative for even n.
 
Ahh okay that makes sense!
Thanks!
Well...at least if I make an educated guess I will probably be able to get a least partial credit...
 

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