Howto understand this periodic fourier series

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The discussion revolves around understanding a periodic Fourier series for a piecewise function defined on the interval [-π/2, 3π/2]. The function consists of two segments: x² for -π/2 < x < π/2 and (1/4)π² for π/2 < x < 3π/2. Participants are exploring how to apply Fourier series formulas to this specific interval and the implications of periodicity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the correct Fourier coefficients a₀, aₙ, and bₙ for the given function. Questions arise regarding the integration limits and whether the standard Fourier series formulas can be applied directly to this non-standard interval. There is also discussion about the periodic nature of the function and how it affects the integration process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the integration process and the periodicity of the function, suggesting that integrating over the defined interval is appropriate. However, there is still exploration of the correct application of the Fourier series definitions, particularly regarding the coefficients and the handling of π in the integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that many standard Fourier series formulas assume a more symmetrical or standard interval, which complicates the application in this case. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the periodicity and the implications for the integration limits.

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I am given this function

[tex]f(x) = \left\{\begin{array}{cccc} x^2 \ \mathrm{where} \ \frac{-\pi}{2} < x < \frac{\pi}{2} \\ \ \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 \ \mathrm{where} \ \frac{\pi}{2} < x < \frac{3\pi}{2} \end{array}[/tex]


Doesn't this mean that the function is periodic Fourier which is defined on

[tex][-\frac{L}{2}, \frac{3L}{2}][/tex]?

Anyway I have formula to find the corresponding Fourier series had been defined on [-L,L] but do I still use this formula eventhough the interval is different?

is then true that if p = pi/2

then

[tex]a_0: = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{\frac{-\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 dx + \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4} \cdot \pi^2 dx = \frac{\pi^2}{6}[/tex]

/Susanne
 
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The short answer to your question is yes. Your function is defined on [itex][-\pi/2,3\pi/2][/itex] which is an interval of length [itex]2\pi[/itex]. If you extend it periodically it will have period [itex]2\pi[/itex]. For a periodic function of period P, it is true that integrating it over any period will give the same result as integrating over any other period:

[tex]\int_a^{a+P}f(x)\,dx = \int_b^{b+P}f(x)\,dx[/tex]

So you don't have to integrate over [itex](-\pi,\pi)[/itex] and in fact you really want to integrate over [itex][-\pi/2,3\pi/2][/itex], because that is where you have the formulas given. If, for some reason, you decided to integrate from [itex](2\pi,4\pi)[/itex] you couldn't use [itex]x^2[/itex] because it would have to be translated.
 
Hi again,

Is my a_n then

[tex]a_n: = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot cos(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 cos(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx[/tex]?

and my b_n is

[tex]b_n: = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot sin(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 sin(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx[/tex]?

what makes this problem complicated is that most of the formulas I has deals with nice even interval :(
 
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Susanne217 said:
Hi again,

Is my a_n then

[tex]a_n: = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot cos(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 cos(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx[/tex]?

and my b_n is

[tex]b_n: = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot sin(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 sin(\frac{nx\pi}{2\pi}) dx[/tex]?

what makes this problem complicated is that most of the formulas I has deals with nice even interval :(

Why don't you cancel the [itex]\pi[/itex]'s?

The period is [itex]2\pi[/itex] so [itex]2p=2\pi[/itex], so [itex]p=\pi[/itex] so you should just have nx inside the integrals.
 
LCKurtz said:
Why don't you cancel the [itex]\pi[/itex]'s?

The period is [itex]2\pi[/itex] so [itex]2p=2\pi[/itex], so [itex]p=\pi[/itex] so you should just have nx inside the integrals.

Okay, but besides from that I hopefully used the formel definition for a_n and b_n correctly ?

[tex]a_n: = \frac{1}{\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot cos(\frac{nx\pi}{\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 cos(\frac{nx\pi}{\pi}) dx[/tex]?

and my b_n is

[tex]b_n: = \frac{1}{\pi} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^2 \cdot sin(\frac{nx\pi}{\pi}) dx + \frac{1}{\pi} \int_\frac{\pi}{2}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{1}{4}\pi^2 sin(\frac{nx\pi}{\pi}) dx[/tex]?
 
Yes. And of course a0 is different.
 
LCKurtz said:
Yes. And of course a0 is different.

thanks :cool:
 

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