Hybrid pulse-jet/rocket motor for space application

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the design of a hybrid pulse-jet/rocket motor intended for space applications. Participants explore the feasibility of using a pulse jet for atmospheric lift before transitioning to rocket propulsion in space, with a focus on thrust capabilities and necessary considerations for the design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether pulse jets can produce sufficient thrust for the intended application, suggesting that research into the capabilities of pulse jets is necessary.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to calculate the speed achievable by the pulse jet and the additional fuel requirements for the rocket stage, highlighting the importance of understanding the overall mass and fuel efficiency.
  • A different contribution mentions the need to evaluate the cost-effectiveness of the hybrid design, considering the complexity and potential failure risks associated with adding an extra motor.
  • One participant recommends researching the SABRE engine as a relevant example for hybrid propulsion systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of uncertainty regarding the capabilities and feasibility of the proposed hybrid motor, with no consensus reached on the viability of the design or the specific calculations needed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the performance characteristics of pulse jets and rockets, as well as unresolved calculations related to thrust, fuel requirements, and cost analysis.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in aerospace engineering, propulsion systems, and hybrid engine designs may find this discussion relevant.

Tiah
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Hi,

Im currently working on a project to design a hybrid pulse-je/rocket motor for space applications. The Pulse jet is to lift a payload in the Earth's atmosphere then reverts to a rocket motor in space. The idea is to reduce the use of on-board oxygen during ascent since it initially breathes air.

Questions:
Does pulse jets have the capability to produce enough thrust for this application?
What considerations are needed to justify its feasibility?
 
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You have to do a bit of research first...How do you plan to design a dual purpose engine (I imagine you only need to design its operating parameters and requirements, but still) if you don't want to look up the capabilities of the stages you are looking at...
 
You need to figure out how fast the pulse jet will be able to take the craft, and then do the math to figure out how much extra fuel your rocket will need to accelerate the mass of the extra motor.

Then, you need to figure out the cost savings for the fuel and find out if the cost of the extra motor plus complexity plus failure risk is worth it.
 
BTW, you are probably going to want to research the work that went into the SABRE engine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABRE_(rocket_engine )
 
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Thank you for the advice and replies! They are of great help!
 

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