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I saw a video on youtube saying water molecules were held together by hydrogen bonding, not dipole dipole. Why is that?
The discussion centers on the differences and relationships between hydrogen bonds and dipole-dipole interactions, particularly in the context of water molecules. Participants explore the nature of these interactions, their strengths, and the implications for molecular behavior in different phases of water.
Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of hydrogen bonds versus dipole-dipole interactions. There is no consensus on the precise relationship between these concepts, and the discussion remains unresolved.
Participants mention various phases of water and the effects of hydrogen bonding on properties like melting and boiling points, but do not resolve the complexities of these interactions or their measurements across different states.
Van der WaalsAbdulQat said:But two H atoms or two H2 molecules undergo dipole-dipole dispersive interactions without having permanent dipoles.
Their orientations are correlated, which gives an effective attraction even if the average orientation of each atom is random.Likewise for two orientation-averaged H2O molecules.
Ice is like many frozen hydrogen bonds, and the high melting/boiling point is a result of hydrogen bonds in ice and water. As gas, interactions between atoms are weak as always.Can it be measured in any or all phases of H2O?