Hydrogen to Helium Reactor, how much hydrogen to power earth?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the amount of hydrogen needed to be converted into helium in a hypothetical fusion reactor to meet the world's electricity consumption of 10^13 kWh. The subject area includes nuclear fusion and energy conversion principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the energy output from hydrogen fusion and explore the conversion of mass to energy using E=mc². There are attempts to clarify the energy units and the calculations involved in determining the amount of hydrogen required.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and insights into the energy conversion process, while others are questioning the accuracy of the assumptions and the units used. There is a mix of approaches being explored, with no explicit consensus reached on the final calculations.

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Participants note the importance of converting energy units correctly and the potential oversight of efficiency in the calculations. There is also mention of the need to verify the reaction specifics and mass-energy conversion details.

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Homework Statement



Suppose we succeed in building a H-->He fusion reactor. How much hydrogen would have to be converted per second to supply the world's electricity consumption of 10^13kwh.

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This is what I am looking for, I think i can figure it out once I know the appropriate equation

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt is to first figure out the energy output of when hydrogen turns into helium. So i take 4 hydrogen at 1.00794 amu a piece, then 1 helium at 4.002602 amu and subtract the totals. Thus:

(1.00794 x4) - 4.002602 = .029158 amu I assume this number is the mass converted to energy?

From my book 1g of H--> HE is 650,000,000 kw of energy output (converted from 6.5x10^18 erg) So from there couldn't I figure this problem out by just finding how many seconds are in a year. Then dividing 10^13kwh by the total amount of seconds, then with knowing the output of 1g convert my Kw per second into amount of material?

I would like to know if I am on the right track or if I am disregarding something important (efficiency isn't involved).
 
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That all sounds like it will work, but it is tricky.
My instinct is to work with energy, converting 10^13kwh into Joules.
"1g of H--> HE is 650,000,000 kw of energy" is not clear - the units kw are for power, not energy. Anyway, kind of awkward so better to use E = mc² to convert the .029158 amu (change to kg first) into Joules. Then you can divide to see how many 4-hydrogens must be fused.

Are you sure of your reaction and the mass converted to energy?
It might be worth reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain_reaction
 
haha just so happen to be reading that as you posted..
 
So I took E=mc^2 and i plugged in:

(0.2916 amu x 1.66053 x10^-27 ) to convert amu to Kg

then that by c^2 which is 9x10^16 m/s

and got 4.358x10^-12

is that joules released by combining 4H to 1 he?
 
With my previous method before your help, I came to about 1.7g per second needed. That seem reasonable?
 
Yes to the 4.358 E-12 for converting 4H.
I end up with a 1000 times less mass per second than you got, but I'm not so great at calculating these days. When I converted the 1E13 KWH to Joules I got 4.35 E -12. Dividing by the energy of 4H gave me 8.28 E27 4H's that must be converted per year.
 

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