I am working out of Sakurai and he says the integral with respect to

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the exponential function involving the Dirac delta function, as presented in Sakurai's "Modern Quantum Mechanics." Participants explore the implications of this integral, particularly its behavior when the variables are equal and the nature of the Dirac delta function in the context of Fourier analysis and distribution theory.

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  • One participant questions the validity of the integral being equal to 2-Pi-h-bar times the Dirac delta function, particularly when x' equals x'', suggesting that the integral should be infinite in that case.
  • Another participant suggests that the explanation can be found in texts on Fourier analysis and distribution theory, indicating a broader theoretical context.
  • A different participant clarifies that the Dirac delta function is a distribution rather than a conventional function, emphasizing its role within integrals rather than as a standalone entity.
  • One participant proposes considering the Fourier transform of the Dirac delta function as a way to understand its properties.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical derivation showing how the limit of a highly oscillatory function leads to the identification of the Dirac delta function, suggesting that the integral behaves in a specific way as the limit approaches infinity.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the integral and the nature of the Dirac delta function. There is no consensus on the initial participant's concerns regarding the integral's behavior when x' equals x''.

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Participants reference the mathematical properties of distributions and the implications of oscillatory behavior in integrals, but do not resolve the initial participant's concerns about the integral's definition and behavior.

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I am working out of Sakurai and he says the integral with respect to p` of exp(ip`(x`-x``)/h-bar) is 2-Pi-h-bar times the dirac delta function of (x`-x``). (Sorry, I am not sure how to make actual integrals).

I was wondering why this is true? For example, if x` = x``, isn't the integral infinity? And, if not, why is it well defined given the oscillations involved?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. This is page 54, equation 1.7.31 out of Sakurai's Modern Quantum Mechanics, second edition.
 
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The explanation you look for can be found in any book on Fourier analysis and distribution theory.
 
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Hi Berko! :smile:

Technically, the dirac delta function is not a function, it's a distribution (or "generalised function").

It is not intended to be on its own, it is always inside another integral.

ie, a distribution A(x) is only intended to be inside an ∫A(x)f(x) dx …

its "value" for any particular value of x, eg A(0), is not really relevant. :wink:

(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_(mathematics)" )
 
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One way to think of it might also be: what is the Fourier transform of \delta(x-x')?
 


A way to think about this is to do

\int_{-A}^A e^{ikx} dk = [\frac{1}{ix}e^{ikx}]_{k=-A}^{k=A} = \frac{1}{ix}(e^{iAx} - e^{-iAx}) = 2 \frac{\sin{Ax}}{x}

Now let A go to infinity. You get a function that is highly oscillatory every except right at x=0. You can do the integral of the function over all x; the result is 2 pi. So if you integrate this function against another function f(x), the oscillations will make everything cancel out except right in the region x=0, and the result will be 2*pi*f(0). So this suggests that you identify

\lim_{A \to \infty} 2 \frac{\sin{Ax}}{x} = 2 \pi \delta (x)
 


@The_Duck: sometimes I wish there were "LIKE" buttons on here, i'd click it. Nice derivation.
 

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