I cannot find enough referees to vouch for me I might not get accepted

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The discussion revolves around a high school student's concerns about securing enough referees for a university application, specifically to the University of British Columbia. The student expresses anxiety over their academic qualifications and the challenges in obtaining references from previous experiences, including a voluntary position as a librarian.

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Main Points Raised

  • The student feels their achievements are insufficient, citing a lack of impactful references, including a mention of being a Top Contributor on Yahoo! Answers.
  • Concerns are raised about the librarian's unwillingness to provide a personal phone number for reference purposes.
  • Some participants suggest applying to other universities with lower cutoffs, such as SFU or UVic, as alternatives.
  • Multiple participants recommend asking teachers for references, arguing that teachers may know the student better than they realize.
  • There is a suggestion that the librarian could provide the library's public phone number instead of a personal one for reference verification.
  • One participant expresses frustration with librarians, questioning their willingness to assist with reference requests.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of finding referees who can provide strong endorsements, regardless of their specific roles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of securing strong references but express differing opinions on the feasibility of obtaining them from the librarian and the best strategies for the student's application process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the student's specific situation and the best course of action.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the student's uncertainty about their qualifications and the challenges of obtaining references, which may depend on personal relationships and institutional policies.

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I cannot find enough referees to vouch for me! I might not get accepted

Here is the problem, I am a high school student applying to a university.

The problem is I do not think my grades will make the cutoff and I need to submit a supplemental application.

I have a few problems.

1. Most of my achievements are really lame; in one section, I put down list of achievements as being a Top Contributor on Yahoo! Answers.

As for voluntary experiences, I worked as a librarian, but I cannot get the librarian to vouch for me because he is uncomfortable with giving out his phone for whatever the reason.

The other achievements I have is that I will be taking 5 heavy load AP Exams in May and I will be concurrently studying Calculus III as a high school student.

What can I do? In case you are wondering this is University of British Columbia (Canada)
 
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Supplemental applications are in general a hard sell. You're safest bet is to apply to other schools with lower cut offs, if you are determined to stay in BC try SFU or UVic they may be easier to get into.
 


Can't you ask your teachers for references? They likely know you a little better than you think.

With respect to your job as a librarian, your immediate supervisor doesn't have to give out a personal phone number, and can just list the library's number, which is public anyway. Further, if he or she refuses to act as a reference you can always go one step up and get someone to verify that indeed you did work there and what the nature of your work was.
 


Choppy said:
Can't you ask your teachers for references? They likely know you a little better than you think.

With respect to your job as a librarian, your immediate supervisor doesn't have to give out a personal phone number, and can just list the library's number, which is public anyway. Further, if he or she refuses to act as a reference you can always go one step up and get someone to verify that indeed you did work there and what the nature of your work was.

They say they want referees that can vouch or confirm my words, I guess I can ask another trusty teacher, but he isn't a librarian...

Why are all librarians such jerks?
 


flyingpig said:
They say they want referees that can vouch or confirm my words, I guess I can ask another trusty teacher, but he isn't a librarian...

Why are all librarians such jerks?

I don't say this with utmost confidence, but think about how many applications a school gets a year. People will not generally confirm little details like that. For your references, find the people who will write the best about you.
 

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