I cannot prove that the integral is 0

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a specific integral, with a hint suggesting that the integral equals zero. Participants are exploring various methods and approaches to prove this assertion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the Euler Beta function and properties of the gamma function, while others express skepticism about the necessity of invoking the beta function. There are discussions about different substitutions and integral manipulations to demonstrate the integral's value without explicitly referencing the beta function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and observations. There is recognition of a key insight regarding the relationship between the two functions involved in the integral, which may lead to a more straightforward proof.

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Participants note that the two functions in question are inverses of each other on the interval [0,1], which may influence the evaluation of the integral. There is also a reference to the problem being from a specific textbook, which may impose certain constraints on the methods discussed.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate

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hint: the integral is zero.


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know how to tackle this, can someone give me a hint please? I looked at several subsitutions and IBP's but I'm stuck.
 
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You can evaluate the integral in terms of the Euler Beta function. Use two different substitutions for each part and properties of the gamma function to show it's zero.
 
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Dick said:
You can evaluate the integral in terms of the Euler Beta function. Use two different substitutions for each part and properties of the gamma function to show it's zero.

The integral is in stewart's book problem plus section I very much doubt that the beta function needs to be invoked...
 


dirk_mec1 said:
The integral is in stewart's book problem plus section I very much doubt that the beta function needs to be invoked...

Then I would suggest you look at how the proof works in terms of the integral definition of the beta function and figure out how to do the same thing by manipulating the integrals without saying the words 'beta function'.
 


In this special case it can be done without the beta function. Note that the two given functions are each others inverses on the interval [0,1].
 


Cyosis said:
In this special case it can be done without the beta function. Note that the two given functions are each others inverses on the interval [0,1].

Nice observation!
 


Cyosis said:
In this special case it can be done without the beta function. Note that the two given functions are each others inverses on the interval [0,1].

This is what I've been waiting for.
 

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