I do not understand why the extra 2 factor is there (energy of 1D electron gas at zero temperature)

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The discussion revolves around the energy of a one-dimensional electron gas at zero temperature, specifically focusing on the factors contributing to the Fermi energy and the calculation of the number of states in the system. Participants are exploring the implications of periodic boundary conditions and the role of spin in determining the number of available states.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the Fermi energy and the factors influencing the number of states, particularly questioning the inclusion of the factor of two for spin. There are inquiries about the assumptions made regarding boundary conditions and the allowed values of the wavevector k.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into their reasoning and calculations. Some have clarified their assumptions about periodic boundary conditions and how these relate to the number of occupied states. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these assumptions on the results derived.

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Participants are navigating differences between one-dimensional and three-dimensional systems, with some referencing professor's notes for context. There is a focus on understanding the allowed values of k under periodic boundary conditions and how these affect the overall calculations.

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For the 1D electron gas at zero temperature derive the average energy and show that it can be written as E_avg = d/d+2 where d is the dimension of the system.
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E_avg = E/N
E_F = ((h_bar)^2 * (k_F)^2)/2m
Fermi energy is given by $$\epsilon_F = \frac{\hbar ^2 k_F ^2}{2m}$$
##N = \frac{2k_F L}{2\pi} \Rightarrow \frac{k_F L}{\pi}## the factor of two in the numerator comes from the electrons having two spins.
$$E=\frac{2L}{2\pi} \int_{0}^{k_F} \frac{\hbar^2 k^2}{2m}\, 2\,dk$$ The two in front of the integral comes from the spin and the ##2\, dk## comes from the dimension of the system.
$$E = \frac{L\hbar^2 k_F^3}{3\pi m}$$
$$E/N = \frac{\hbar^2 k_F^2}{3m} \Rightarrow \frac{2\epsilon_F}{3}$$
The answer should be ##\epsilon_F/3##
 
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bluepilotg-2_07 said:
##N = \frac{2k_F L}{2\pi}## ... the factor of two in the numerator comes from the electrons having two spins.
Can you show how you got this result? What are the possible values of ##k## for the electron states? Are you assuming periodic boundary conditions for the states?
 
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Hello, thanks for responding
I assumed periodic boundary conditions when solving the Schrödinger equation for the 1D system. At zero temperature the number of occupied states is equal to the number of electrons N. The electrons exist along some line of length L in the 1D system. If I have period ##\pi##, I suppose N would actually be ##\frac{L}{\pi} \cdot 2k_F##, 2 arising from the two possible electron spins and ##k_F## being the wavevector. This seems to solve my issue and does give me ##\frac{1}{3} \epsilon_F## for the average energy, but I still do not think I understand why this way of calculating gives N.
My initial result for N came from looking at my professor's notes for the 3D system and trying to reason out the dimensions of the 1D system.
 
bluepilotg-2_07 said:
I assumed periodic boundary conditions when solving the Schrödinger equation for the 1D system.
At zero temperature the number of occupied states is equal to the number of electrons N. The electrons exist along some line of length L in the 1D system.
Ok.

bluepilotg-2_07 said:
If I have period ##\pi##, I suppose N would actually be ##\frac{L}{\pi} \cdot 2k_F##, 2 arising from the two possible electron spins and ##k_F## being the wavevector. This seems to solve my issue and does give me ##\frac{1}{3} \epsilon_F## for the average energy, but I still do not think I understand why this way of calculating gives N.
When using periodic boundary conditions, the wavefunction for an energy eigenstate has the form ##\psi(x) =\frac 1 {\sqrt{L}} e^{ikx}##. What are the allowed values of ##k## such that ##\psi(x)## satisfies the boundary condition?
 
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If my boundary conditions are ##\psi(x+L)=\psi(x) \Rightarrow \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{ikL}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}##, then allowed values of k should be ##k=\frac{2\pi}{L}n##.
 
bluepilotg-2_07 said:
If my boundary conditions are ##\psi(x+L)=\psi(x) \Rightarrow \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{ikL}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}##, then allowed values of k should be ##k=\frac{2\pi}{L}n##.
Ok. But you need to specify the allowed values of ##n##. For periodic boundary conditions, an electron can travel in the positive x-direction or the negative x-direction. That is, there are states of positive x-component of momentum and also states of negative x-component of momentum.
 

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