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u and v are vector or whatever in that base, and A is an operator. What does <u|A|v> mean?
The discussion revolves around the interpretation and meaning of the notation in quantum mechanics, specifically in the context of bra-ket notation and operators. Participants explore the implications of this notation, its relation to the Born rule, and the distinction between pure and non-pure states.
Participants express varying interpretations of the notation and its implications, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on a singular interpretation or explanation.
Some participants reference specific textbooks, such as Griffiths and Ballentine, suggesting that understanding may depend on the level of detail and context provided in these texts. There is also mention of the distinction between pure and non-pure states, which may not be universally covered in all introductory materials.
Which QM textbook are you using?JPMPhysics said:u and v are vector or whatever in that base, and A is an operator. What does <u|A|v> mean?
JPMPhysics said:u and v are vector or whatever in that base, and A is an operator. What does <u|A|v> mean?
bhobba said:It means <u|A|v> = (<u|A)|v> = <u(|A|v>) = <v|A|u> - the last is true because A is Hermitian.
For so called pure states, its an axiom of QM, called the Born rule, that the expected value of the obsevable A, E(A) is <u|A|v>. In fact its a special case of the full Born Rule E(A) = Trace (PA) where P is any state, not just a pure one.
If the above doesn't make much sense, then, as Strangerep says, we need to know exactly the textbook you are using so the answer can be pitched at whatever background it provides. What I said above is at the level of Ballentine - Quantum Mechanics - A Modern Development, which is a more advanced graduate level text. Beginning textbooks may, for example, not make a distinction between pure and non pure states.
Thanks
Bill
JPMPhysics said:I'm using Griffiths textbook. Don't you mean <u|(A|v>)? The | before the (?