(I) [Inquiry] Analyzing a Commercial Smart Glass Product

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a commercial smart glass product that transitions between semi-transparent and opaque states based on electrical input. Participants explore the underlying technology, potential materials, and methods for creating a more affordable version with improved optical performance. The conversation includes technical details about the product's construction and operation, as well as inquiries into the specific technologies involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the smart glass may utilize PNLC (Polymer Network Liquid Crystal) or GHLC (Guest-Host Liquid Crystal) technologies, while others express skepticism about the latter due to cost considerations.
  • It is noted that the product operates by becoming opaque when powered and returning to a relatively transparent state when off, indicating an electric-field-driven optical change.
  • Questions are raised about the function of a black film layer on one side of the panel, with some proposing it could serve as a polarizer or enhance light absorption and contrast.
  • Participants inquire about the purpose of a multi-pin flexible flat cable (FFC) and whether it suggests segmented control or additional electrode structures.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for designing an improved version of the product, focusing on achieving maximum transparency when off and maximum opacity when on, while minimizing costs.
  • One participant mentions the impact of a polarizing plastic layer on brightness and contrast, noting it blocks a significant portion of light transmission.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the legality of applications for such technology, particularly in relation to obscuring vehicle license plates.
  • Some participants express a willingness to provide insights and references, while others suggest seeking collaboration with an electro-optical engineer for product development.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of viewpoints regarding the technology used in the smart glass, with no consensus on the specific type. There are also differing opinions on the legality and ethical implications of certain applications of the technology. The discussion remains unresolved on several technical aspects and potential improvements.

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Limitations include uncertainty about the specific electrical input characteristics and the exact nature of the materials used in the smart glass. The discussion also reflects varying levels of expertise among participants, which may influence the depth of technical insights provided.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in materials science, optical engineering, product development, and those exploring applications of smart glass technology.

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Analyzing a commercial smart glass product that switches from semi-transparent (OFF) to fully opaque (ON) with 12V input. Trying to identify if it uses PNLC, Guest-Host LCD, or another tech. It has a black film layer on one side, a transparent layer, and a multi-pin FFC cable. Goal: replicate or improve it with higher transparency and opacity at low cost. Looking for expert input
Hello everybody

I discovered this cover a while ago and I am trying to understand its work and the last thing I found is that it might be PNLC ( Polymer Network Liquid Crystal ) and this is what I often think
Or it is GHLC ( guest-host liquid crystal ) and this is not likely because I think it is more expensive than the PNL
The way it works is when the current is connected to it, it becomes opaque black, and when the current is cut, it returns transparent (relatively)
Also there are two pictures and I am trying to turn it at a 90 degree angle and it turns out that there is a vision
But when you turn it in the other direction, it becomes invisible.

From the pictures, it is clear that there is a small fragile bottle covered with a layer of one side in black, and this is what prompted me to think, is this bottle of the ITO type? Or just a regular PNLC bottle and it was painted from one side
You can notice scattered squares of glass slightly protruding from the top and have been marked in red

I will upload some pictures to clarify the idea for you
Maybe you know what the materials are.
And if you have an idea for something similar and less expensive hello everyone
Thanks for all your efforts
 

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Hello, and thank you for this opportunity
I post thread before and remove it bcz I did not clarify the main points i need so here is the new one and try my best to clarify it as i can

I’m currently analyzing a commercial smart glass product that shifts between a semi-transparent state and full opacity depending on electrical input. I’m trying to identify the specific technology used (possibly PNLC, Guest-Host LCD, or another form of LCD), in order to develop a more affordable version with improved optical performance.

When powered off, the panel becomes relatively transparent, and when powered on, it becomes fully opaque, indicating an electric-field-driven optical change.

The product is powered through a 12V input (car-style power) into a converter module, but the output voltage/frequency is unknown — it could involve DC to AC conversion or other modulation techniques

There’s a flat flexible cable (FFC) attached, sometimes with multiple terminal lines, soldered to a thin transparent top layer of the glass. The internal layer structure reveals a black film covering only one side of the panel, possibly for polarization or optical contrast enhancement.


Images: Operating Modes
1. Image showing panel in OFF mode (no power applied)
2. Image showing panel in ON mode (voltage applied)

Images: Panel Broken for Internal Review
3. Broken edge showing structural layering
4. Clear separation of active vs inactive regions after damage
5. Zoomed-in view of fractured cross-section

Images: Wiring and Construction Details
6. Soldered FFC connection to top layer
7. Transparent layer extending beyond dark film surface
8. Side perspective showing film thickness
9. Zoom on outer black film layer

Additional: Multi-pin FFC Cable Examples
10. Closeup of multi-pin FFC cable
11. Alternate angle of multi-terminal cable



Questions:

• Based on the observed behavior and structure, could this be a PNLC-based system, Guest-Host LCD, standard TN/STN LCD, or another optical material altogether?


• What is the likely function of the black film layer applied to one side? Could it be a polarizer, or something else to improve light absorption and contrast?


• Why does the FFC cable sometimes have multiple terminals instead of a basic two-wire system? Could this suggest segmented control or additional electrode structures?


• What is the identity and function of the transparent top layer extending above the black region? Does it suggest that this panel was cut from pre-fabricated sheet stock?


• If one were to design an improved version of this product, which material or technique would provide maximum transparency when off, and maximum opacity with minimal light transmission when on, at lowest possible cost?





Any scientific references, journal papers, or datasheets comparing the behavior and requirements of PNLC, Guest-Host, and LCD technologies would be greatly appreciated


Here is also video shows how it works, you can slow the video to see the edges down how it work when he cut the power
About the logo i found he use mate-film cut but its not matter now

Vid link :


Thank you in advance for your insights!
 

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Sorry about the late reply!

As for the low brightness/contrast, that would be due to the layer of polarizing plastic. This blocks transmission of about 75% the light.

Unfortunately, since the members here are volunteers, and many long retired, we are not in a position to do a complete product development project for your device.

Perhaps you could find an electro-optical engineer that would be willing to join you as a partner, with you supplying the funds and (s)he supplying the technical aspects.

Cheers,
Tom

p.s. please keep us updated on your progress!
 
alyami said:
When powered off, the panel becomes relatively transparent, and when powered on, it becomes fully opaque, indicating an electric-field-driven optical change.
alyami said:
• If one were to design an improved version of this product, which material or technique would provide maximum transparency when off, and maximum opacity with minimal light transmission when on, at lowest possible cost?
I just realized that you are asking to improve a product that is illegal in most countries. Obscuring the license plate of a motor vehicle (especially on-the-fly from the driver's seat while driving) does not have valid/legal applications. Thread is closed.
 
After a PM conversation with the OP, he is actually working on a different application, so this thread is reopened provisionally.
 
alyami said:
The way it works is when the current is connected to it, it becomes opaque black, and when the current is cut, it returns transparent (relatively)
You need to carefully think through the 'off' state matching to the application o0)

alyami said:
And if you have an idea for something similar and less expensive
It's hard to guess what would be cheaper for an use without knowing at least something about that use.
Smart films (self-adhesive) are relative cheap (and flexible).
 

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