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The problem involves finding the equation of a line with a positive slope that is tangent to the ellipse defined by the equation (x^2)/9 + (y^2)/4 = 1 at the point where x=2. Participants are exploring the derivative of the ellipse to determine the slope of the tangent line.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding the derivative of the ellipse equation and express confusion about isolating dy/dx without having y in the equation. There are attempts to solve for y when x=2, with varying results leading to questions about the correctness of their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different interpretations of the calculations for y and the derivative. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the steps taken to solve for y, while others express uncertainty about the results obtained. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the homework problem, which requires finding a tangent line with a positive slope. There is a noted confusion regarding the values of y derived from the ellipse equation, leading to further exploration of assumptions and calculations.

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Homework Statement


The problem is

Find the equation of the line with a positive slope that is tangent to the ellipse
(x^2)/9 + (y^2)/4 = 1
At x=2

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Now I know that to find the tangent, I find the derivative of the equation. So I got
2x/9 + 2y/4 dy/dx = 0But its this part where I can't go any further. See I only get X, so I can't solve for dy/dx without having y in the answer, and therefor I can't solve for y.

I solved for dy/dx and got -16/18y, and just tp test I found what was Y when x = 2 for the original equation, it was 0.37.
So I adding 0.37 into -16/18y, i got -2.4 (which would be the slope of the line)

But it says find the line with the positive slope, after reading through the entire chapter in my textbook, and searching the internet, I am stuck and don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
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it should be be 2x/9 + 2y/4 dy/dx = 0

If x = 2, then (y^2)/4 = 1 - 4/9

solve for y.
 
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courtrigrad said:
it should be be 2x/9 + 2y/4 dy/dx = 0

Sorry that was a typo, I originally had that, and typed it out wrong.
 
If x = 2, then (y^2)/4 = 1 - 4/9

solve for y.
 
courtrigrad said:
If x = 2, then (y^2)/4 = 1 - 4/9

solve for y.

I did solve for y, it was 0.37 but my answer was negative and therefor couldn't be it.
 
y = sqrt(20)/3 or -sqrt(20)/3dy/dx = -8x / 18y

and y = -sqrt(20)/3so it will be positive
 
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and y = -sqrt(20)/3

Where did you get that from. When I solved for y in the original equation. I get

0.4444 + (y^2)/4 = 1
0.55556 / 4 = y^2

Sqrt(0.138) = y

y = 0.37
 
[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{9} + \frac{y^{2}}{4} = 1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{y^{2}}{4} = 1 - \frac{4}{9} = \frac{5}{9}[/tex]

[tex]y^{2} = \frac{20}{9}[/tex]

[tex]y = \pm \frac{\sqrt{20}}{3}[/tex]
 
Dave J said:
and y = -sqrt(20)/3

Where did you get that from. When I solved for y in the original equation. I get

0.4444 + (y^2)/4 = 1
0.55556 / 4 = y^2
No, y^2= 4(0.55556)= 2.22222
so y= sqrt(2.22222)= 1.4907= sqrt(20)/3

Sqrt(0.138) = y

y = 0.37
 

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