Ideal Gas and finding final pressure

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the ideal gas law, specifically focusing on the pressure of an automobile tire after changes in volume and temperature. The original poster seeks clarification on the algebraic manipulation of the gas law equation to arrive at the final pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the equation used in the solution, questioning the rationale behind dividing final values by initial values. Some participants suggest using the combined gas equation and discuss the constancy of the number of moles in this scenario.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a productive exploration of the problem, with some providing insights into the relationships between the variables in the ideal gas law. There is acknowledgment of the constancy of the number of moles, which contributes to the clarity of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The problem involves specific conditions such as the initial temperature and volume of the tire, as well as the changes made during inflation. The original poster is navigating through the algebraic steps without a complete understanding of the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to understand algebraically how the solution was arrived at for the following problem.

Automobile tire at normal atmosphere at 10 deg C.
Inflating the tire to 28% of original volume with an increase in temp to 40 deg C
What is the pressure?

Homework Equations



PV = nRT where P is the pressure, V is the volume, n is the number of moles, R is a constant, and T is the temp

The Attempt at a Solution



The the solution is given in what appears as a ratio between the initial values and final values, and I'm just not understanding algebraically how the equation in step 1. was derived. Why would I divide the final values with the initial values?

1. (P_2)(V_2) / (P_1)(V_1) = nRT_2 / nRT_1

2. (P_2)(.28V_1) / (1 atm)(V_1) = T_2 / T_1

3. (.28)P_2) / (1 atm) = 313.15 K / 283.15 K

4. P_2 = 1.106 / .28

5. P_2 = 3.95 atm


Thanks for whatever enlightenment you might be able to give.
 
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Looks to me as if you need to use the Combined gas equation.
 
Welcome to PF puniverse!

In this case, you can take it as this R = PV/nT, and since R is a constant regardless or what happens, they equate both sides together and shifted the variables around.
 
Oh, I understand that. So it's like:

1. nR_1 = (P_1)(V_1) / T_1

2. nR_2 = (P_2)(V_2) / T_2

3. nR_1 = nR_2

4. (P_1)(V_1) / T_1 = (P_2)(V_2) / T_2 ... and then solve for P_2

Yup, that works. Thanks!

Quick question tho, would I be misunderstanding if I considered n a constant also? I mean, n as in the number of moles doesn't change in this situation does it?
 
In this situation, n is constant, since they are not pumping more air, but instead, increasing the temperature of the air inside. So yeah. nR is in fact constant, for this question.
 

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