Ideal Gas Law: Finding dP/dT, dT/dV & dV/dP

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The discussion revolves around the ideal gas law, specifically the relationships between pressure (P), volume (V), and temperature (T) as expressed through their differentials. The original poster attempts to explore the implications of multiplying the differentials dP/dT, dT/dV, and dV/dP, having arrived at a result of -1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correctness of the original poster's result and its implications for ideal gases. Questions arise regarding the specific meaning of the result in the context of the ideal gas law.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the original poster's findings, while others seek to understand the significance of the result further. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of specific information regarding the implications of the result for ideal gases and reference external sources, such as Wikipedia, for additional context.

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Homework Statement


The law for an ideal gas is given by P = n*R*T/V. In our case, n and R are constant, so P = f(V,T).

I have found dP/dT, dT/dV and dV/dP. I have to find the result when these three differentials are multiplied with each other.

The Attempt at a Solution



I get -1 - can you guys confirm this? And what does this mean?
 
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Looks right to me. This is true for any three variables related by a differentiable function.
 
I see.. does it have any specific meaning for an ideal gas?
 
I have searched Wikipedia - I haven't found anything. Can you help?
 
I cannot think of any meaning that goes beyond the literal interpretation of the operations.

e.g. it suggests that, at least on tiny scales, you can compute the relationship between P and V along an isotherm by instead looking at how T and P relate along an isochore and how T and V relate along an isobar.
 

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