Identifying Error in Spherical Coordinates - Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around identifying an error in a problem related to spherical coordinates and volume calculations. Participants are examining the volume element \( dV \) in spherical coordinates and its application in a specific integration problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to identify where an error may have occurred in their calculations. Questions are raised about the correctness of results compared to peers, and there is a discussion about the intuition behind expected outcomes based on geometric reasoning.

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There is ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problem, with participants sharing their thoughts on potential errors and discrepancies in results. Some guidance has been offered regarding symmetry and checking results against known values, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention differing results from study friends and express confusion regarding the expected volume based on integration over a sphere. The discussion includes references to specific values like \( \pi/8 \) and \( \pi/6 \), indicating a lack of clarity on the correct approach or assumptions in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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And the volume element dV expressed in spherical coordinates.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Can you spot where I've made an error?
 
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SammyS said:
What's you question?
Where is the error? * (Where have I made an error)

-Ok! Edited*
 
Schwarzschild90 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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And the volume element dV expressed in spherical coordinates.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Can you spot where I've made an error?
I don't see the error after going through what you did twice.

What is the correct answer?
 
There is a slightly easier way. By symmetry you can change the x to z in the integrand.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Why do you think you have made an error?
My study friends have gotten a different result than I. (Pi/8). And my intuition tells me that by integrating over radius=1, I should get something that looks like 1/8 the volume of a sphere of radius 1 (Pi/6). Would someone like to clear this up? I'd like to know if I'm doing something wrong.
 
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Schwarzschild90 said:
My study friends have gotten a different result than I. (Pi/8). And my intuition tells me that by integrating over radius=1, I should get something that looks like 1/8 the volume of a sphere of radius 1 (Pi/6). Would someone like to clear this up? I'd like to know if I'm doing something wrong.
Sure but the integrand, x, is on average less than 1/2.
You can check your answer by looking up the mass centre of a hemisphere.
 
I turned in the assigment. Giving it another shot tonight.
 
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Schwarzschild90 said:
My study friends have gotten a different result than I. (Pi/8). And my intuition tells me that by integrating over radius=1, I should get something that looks like 1/8 the volume of a sphere of radius 1 (Pi/6). Would someone like to clear this up? I'd like to know if I'm doing something wrong.

Do it the easy way: ##V = \int_0^1 x A(x) \, dx##, where ##A(x)## is the area of the slice at ##x## parallel to the ##yz## plane. The slice is a quarter circle of radius ##\sqrt{1-x^2}##, so ##A(x) = \frac{1}{4} \pi (1-x^2)##. This gives ##V = \pi/16##, as you obtained.
 

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