Identifying Types of Singularity in Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around identifying the type of singularity at x=0 for two differential equations involving trigonometric functions and their derivatives. The subject area includes differential equations and singularity analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the behavior of the functions as x approaches zero, discussing the implications of Taylor series expansions and the definitions of regular and irregular singularities. Questions arise regarding the handling of divisions by zero and the analytic nature of the functions near the singularity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the validity of the original poster's conclusions and exploring the implications of undefined behavior at certain points. Some guidance is offered regarding the analytic properties of the functions involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the behavior of Sin[1/x] as x approaches zero leads to undefined points, raising concerns about the classification of singularities. The discussion reflects on the necessity of being analytic in a neighborhood of the singular point.

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Homework Statement


Identify the type of singularity at x=0 for these differential equations

x*Sin[1/x]*y''[x]+y[x]==0

x^2*y''[x]+Sin[1/x]*y[x]==0

Homework Equations


A Singular point is regular if f(x)(x-x_0)^n is defined as x approaches x_0 and is analytic in a near a neighborhood of that singular point. It is irregular if this doesn't hold.

The Attempt at a Solution



x/(Sin[1/x]) x is analytic at x=0 and around x=0 to see if this was a regular or irregular singularity. So I wrote out the Taylor series of Sin[x] and plugged in for x 1/x. After doing the it appeared that as x goes to zero x/Sin[1/x] went to zero so I said it was a regular singularity, I also identified other singular points at 1/(Pi*n) where n is a integer. Using the same process for the other ODE I found that as x goes to zero (x^2/(Sin[1/x)]))x^2 does not converge as x goes to zero thus it is a irregular singularity. Can anyone tell me if my approach was right and if my answers were right?[/B]
 
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QFT25 said:
it appeared that as x goes to zero x/Sin[1/x] went to zero
What did you do about all the divisions by 0?
 
FactChecker said:
What did you do about all the divisions by 0?

The series looks like x/(1/x -1/x^3+1/x^5...) so as x goes to zero the numerator goes to zero and the denominator increases without bound because of all of the (1/x) terms. So in my head I was like zero over infinity is zero.
 
QFT25 said:
The series looks like x/(1/x -1/x^3+1/x^5...) so as x goes to zero the numerator goes to zero and the denominator increases without bound because of all of the (1/x) terms. So in my head I was like zero over infinity is zero.
For every x = 1/nπ, x / sin(1/x) = (1/nπ) / ( sin(nπ) ) = (1/nπ) / 0. That is a series of points of x approaching 0 where the function is undefined.
 
FactChecker said:
For every x = 1/nπ, x / sin(1/x) = (1/nπ) / ( sin(nπ) ) = (1/nπ) / 0. That is a series of points of x approaching 0 where the function is undefined.
Yes Sin[1/x] as x goes to zero is undefined. However Sin[1/x] ranges between as -1,0 and 1. Also as x/(Sin[x+Pi]) as x goes to zero approaches negative -1. Hmm now that I think I think about it is un defined right because it will go between 0 and -1 right. So it is irregular point right?
 
Think about "is analytic in a neighborhood of that singular point." Is that true?
 
FactChecker said:
Think about "is analytic in a neighborhood of that singular point." Is that true?
No because Sin[1/z] at z=0 is not a isolated singularity so it isn't analytic in in a neighborhood of z or in this case x.
 
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