If there was a zero net acceleration at the equator?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of determining the length of a day on Earth if there were zero net acceleration at the equator. Participants explore the implications of this condition on Earth's rotational dynamics and the necessary calculations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to calculate the required rotational velocity and period of rotation based on the assumption of zero net acceleration. They discuss the relationship between gravitational acceleration and centripetal acceleration, questioning how these factors would interact under the given conditions.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and findings, with some checking their work against different methods. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and while some numerical values have been proposed, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the relevance of satellite dynamics as a comparison point for understanding the implications of rapid rotation. There is also mention of potential discrepancies in calculations, indicating a need for careful consideration of the methods used.

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Homework Statement


How long would a day have to be on Earth if there was zero net acceleration at the equator?


Homework Equations


Ac=v^2/r
Vrotational=Ac / Radius of earth
g = 9.8m/ss
T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity
V= SQRT(Ac*R)
Earth's Radius = 6.37x10^6
Earth's circumference = 40023890.41


The Attempt at a Solution


The real acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation is .03m/ss, but it doesn't really matter to us because g=9.8m/ss so we can stay on Earth. so the net acceleration in 9.8 - .34

if there was a zero net acceleration, then the acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation would have to be 9.8m/ss, right?

so doing V= SQRT(Ac*R), i get 7901.013m/s for the rotational velocity of the Earth.

T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity, i get 506.56s, or, .141hrs. Is that correct?
 
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PotentialE said:

Homework Statement


How long would a day have to be on Earth if there was zero net acceleration at the equator?


Homework Equations


Ac=v^2/r
Vrotational=Ac / Radius of earth
g = 9.8m/ss
T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity
V= SQRT(Ac*R)
Earth's Radius = 6.37x10^6
Earth's circumference = 40023890.41


The Attempt at a Solution


The real acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation is .03m/ss, but it doesn't really matter to us because g=9.8m/ss so we can stay on Earth. so the net acceleration in 9.8 - .34

if there was a zero net acceleration, then the acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation would have to be 9.8m/ss, right?

so doing V= SQRT(Ac*R), i get 7901.013m/s for the rotational velocity of the Earth.

T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity, i get 506.56s, or, .141hrs. Is that correct?

I take it the question relates to how quickly the Earth would rotate if an object released is not observed to fall, as we currently see.

That is what happens in an orbitting satellite/space station.

They are not very far above the surface [compared to the Radius of the Earth [R = 6000+ km, but many satellites are only ~300 km above the surface] so they give a good indication of what is necessary.

Many of those satellites go around about once every 90 minutes, or a bit less, so we can imagine a day on that fast spinning world would be about 85-90 minutes long.
 
PotentialE said:

Homework Statement


How long would a day have to be on Earth if there was zero net acceleration at the equator?


Homework Equations


Ac=v^2/r
Vrotational=Ac / Radius of earth
g = 9.8m/ss
T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity
V= SQRT(Ac*R)
Earth's Radius = 6.37x10^6
Earth's circumference = 40023890.41


The Attempt at a Solution


The real acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation is .03m/ss, but it doesn't really matter to us because g=9.8m/ss so we can stay on Earth. so the net acceleration in 9.8 - .34

if there was a zero net acceleration, then the acceleration of Earth due to it's rotation would have to be 9.8m/ss, right?

so doing V= SQRT(Ac*R), i get 7901.013m/s for the rotational velocity of the Earth.

T = Earth's circumference / rotational velocity, i get 506.56s, or, .141hrs. Is that correct?


You might get there quicker if you used Ac = 4π2R/T2 rather than Ac = v2/R
 
ok, i checked my math by doing my way again and you're way and i got 1.407 hours, my bad. but is 1.47hours now correct?
 
PotentialE said:
ok, i checked my math by doing my way again and you're way and i got 1.407 hours, my bad. but is 1.47hours now correct?

Why did you just change 1.407 to 1.47 ?

It is certainly an answer around the right size!

EDIT: If you use two methods and get the same answer, that answer is most likely correct.
 

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