I'm confused about this integral

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a complex integral involving the fractional part of a power function. Participants are exploring the correct method for closing the contour in the complex plane, particularly in relation to the poles of the integrand and the implications for the results obtained.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to prove or disprove an integral equation involving the fractional part of \( x^{1/n} \) and is uncertain about the correct contour closure in the complex plane.
  • Another participant suggests that differing results may arise from the nature of the contributions along the contour and recommends numerical computation to investigate any differences.
  • A participant acknowledges a potential error in their contour closure method and expresses doubts about the nature of the result, indicating a need for clarification.
  • There is a question about whether the results yield opposite signs, suggesting a possible oversight in the integration bounds when considering the poles.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct approach to closing the contour and whether this leads to different results. There is no consensus on the proper method or the implications of the results.

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Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the behavior of the integrand along different contours, and there are unresolved questions about the contributions from the half-circle arcs versus straight segments.

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i'm trying to prove - or disprove ! - the following :
-\ln x\frac{\left \{ x^{1/n} \right \}}{2n^{3}}=\frac{1}{2\pi i}\int_{-i\infty}^{i\infty}\frac{s}{\left((ns)^{2}-1\right)^{2}} x^{s}ds
where \left \{ x^{1/n} \right \} is the fractional part of x^{1/n}
for x\in \mathbb{R}:x>1, n\in \mathbb{Z}^{+}
i'm confused about where to close the contour: to the right , or to the left of the imaginary axis. because the integrand has poles at n^{-1} and -n^{-1}. and by the reside theorem, i get two different results!
 
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Maybe you're getting different results because the results are different. Are you sure the contribution along the half-circle arc is zero whether you go around the left half plane or the right half plane?

Just compute it numerically to see if there's a difference, then if there is, try and show it analytically.
 
maybe i was closing the contour the wrong way! i didn't use half circles, i closed it using straight segments parallel to the real/imaginary lines. thanks for the remark . however, i still have doubts about the 'steppy' nature of the result - if correct ! - .
 
mmzaj said:
i'm confused about where to close the contour: to the right , or to the left of the imaginary axis. because the integrand has poles at n^{-1} and -n^{-1}. and by the reside theorem, i get two different results!
Is it that you get the opposite sign? If so, maybe you forgot to flip the bounds of the linear integral in order to go anticlockwise around the pole.
 

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