I'm supposed to find the length of the curve.

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of a curve defined by the parametric equations r(t) = for the interval 0 <= t <= pi/4. Participants are exploring the integral L = ∫ √(1 + sec^4 (t)) dt as part of this process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integral's complexity and whether it can be simplified. Questions arise about the correctness of previous steps and the original problem's requirements. There is also consideration of numerical approximation methods for evaluating the integral.

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Some participants have confirmed the integral's correctness and noted that it is more feasible to evaluate numerically rather than analytically. There is an ongoing exploration of numerical methods, with suggestions of the Trapezoid rule and Simpson's rule being mentioned.

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One participant indicates a lack of familiarity with numerical approximation methods, suggesting that they have not yet covered this material in their coursework.

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I got up to here. L = ∫ √(1 + sec^4 (t)) dt

oh yea it's from 0,<= t <= pi/4

do I have to pull a sec^2 t out or do I just square it, I don't think I can use the square root yet unless is was just sec^4 t by itself.

I need help man.
 
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afcwestwarrior said:
I got up to here. L = ∫ √(1 + sec^4 (t)) dt

This integral cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions:eek:

Are you sure that your steps leading up to this point are correct? What was the original problem?:wink:
 
The original problem was r(t)= < sin t, cos t, tan t> 0 <= t <=pi/4

It asked me too find the length of the curve to four decimal places. It told me to use my calculator to approximate the integral.
 
They also came up with an answer. L = 1.2780
 
Okay, then you've come up with the correct integral. However, it is much easier to evaluate numerically than to try it analytically.

What numerical approximation methods have you been taught? Apply one of them.
 
So I just plug in the values o and pi/4
 
I don't think I've been taught any numerical approximation methods yet. We barely went through this section.
 
Wait a minute. Wouldn't I use series or something.
 
What method would you use.
 
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I would probably use either the Trapezoid rule, or Simpson's rule...have you been taught either of those?
 

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