Imposing high frequency on AC mains

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the technical challenge of superimposing a high-frequency component onto the AC mains voltage of 240V at 60Hz. Participants explore practical methods and components needed for this implementation, as well as considerations related to regulations and existing technologies.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Experimental/applied
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method of combining DC and AC voltages using a formula, suggesting a 50V DC with a 5V peak AC ripple at 600kHz.
  • Another participant references the X10 remote control system, which utilizes high frequencies to control appliances over AC mains, indicating practical applications of high-frequency superimposition.
  • Concerns are raised about regulatory compliance regarding the frequencies and amplitudes that can be coupled into powerlines, with a specific mention of regulations in the US and EU.
  • A participant expresses a desire for practical implementation details, asking for specific components like signal generators or frequency mixers, and requests a block diagram for connections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach or specific components needed for the project. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the implementation and regulatory considerations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of adhering to local regulations regarding conducted emissions, which may affect the feasibility of proposed methods.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, particularly those working on projects involving AC mains and high-frequency signal integration.

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Hi All,
Currently Iam working on a project where I have to superimpose High frequency component on AC mains 240V 60HZ. ( Its imposing Ripples in mains voltage... as happens when voltage is generated from a Petrol generator). Need some help how would i do this ?

Thanks in advance.
Shakey...
 
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By the formula, it is two voltages in series, for example,

50V + 5V * sin (2*pi*60*time)

This will be a DC 50V plus an AC ripple with 60HZ 5V peak.

50V * sin (2*pi*60*time) + 5V * sin (2 *pi* 600000*time)

This will be a 50V peak 60HZ AC plus an AC ripple with 5V peak at 600kHz.



shaik.as22 said:
Hi All,
Currently Iam working on a project where I have to superimpose High frequency component on AC mains 240V 60HZ. ( Its imposing Ripples in mains voltage... as happens when voltage is generated from a Petrol generator). Need some help how would i do this ?

Thanks in advance.
Shakey...
 
Look at the X10 remote control system that has been around (in the U.S.) for 30 years. It uses a high frequency (100's of kilohertz) to remotely control appliances over the AC mains. I was even able to remotely turn on and off a lamp in my neighbor's house using a plug-in lamp control unit. There are now other brands on the market. See http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1675067,00.asp
 
shaik.as22 said:
Hi All,
Currently Iam working on a project where I have to superimpose High frequency component on AC mains 240V 60HZ. ( Its imposing Ripples in mains voltage... as happens when voltage is generated from a Petrol generator). Need some help how would i do this ?

Thanks in advance.
Shakey...

For most countries, there are regulations for what frequencies and what amplitudes you can couple into the powerlines. What country are you in? In the US and in the EU, there are strict regulations governing the "conducted emissions" on powerlines.
 
Thanks for your replies Fuxue and Berkeman...
Fuxue, I understand theroy behind it but i want to implement it practically. So What are the components i should be looking for, like signal generator/frequency mixer... etc..

Berkeman I am from United Kingdom

please suggest me what are the components i will be requiring. if possible block diagram of connection made..
 
Please see the attachment... how can I achieve pratically what are the components/devices required
 

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