Improper Integral with Infinity in Limits

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral of the function xe^[-x^2] from negative infinity to positive infinity. Participants are exploring the convergence of the integral and the implications of the integrand being an odd function.

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile their findings with established results, questioning the treatment of indeterminate forms. Some participants suggest examining the properties of odd functions and their implications for the integral's value.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the nature of odd functions and their integrals over symmetric intervals. There is recognition of the need to clarify certain mathematical steps, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding limits and the evaluation of exponential terms at infinity. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the behavior of the integrand as it approaches the limits of integration.

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∫xe^[-x^2] dx
-∞

So basically I've solved for everything in this problem and it looks like it should be an indeterminate form and thus divergent. My book and Wolfram both say it's 0 and convergent though.

I get it down into:
lim [[e^(-t^2)] - e^0]/2 + lim [e^0 - [e^(-v^2)]]/2
t->-∞__________________v->∞

When I plug stuff in I get:

[e^∞ - e^∞ - e^0 + e^0]/2

I can see why it might be 0 from the stuff above, but e^∞ - e^∞ should be indeterminate rather than 0. Can someone please explain what I'm not getting?Wolfram:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...=DefiniteIntegralCalculator.rangeend_infinity
 
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The integrand is an odd function, so if you can show that \int_{0}^{\infty} x e^{-x^2} dx is finite, then the integral from -\infty to \infty will be zero. Seems like a simple substitution will do the trick.
 
jbunniii said:
The integrand is an odd function, so if you can show that \int_{0}^{\infty} x e^{-x^2} dx is finite, then the integral from -\infty to \infty will be zero. Seems like a simple substitution will do the trick.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying.
 
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Well you know that sin(x) is an odd function right? An odd function means that f(-x)=-f(x) and the function just flips over when it crosses the origin like sin(x) does. So that if f(-x)=-f(x) then surely:

\int_{-1}^{1} f(x)dx=0

if f(x) is odd. Same diff for any symmetric interval like -2 to 2, -100 to 100 even -infty to infty.

So what about the function x e^{-x^2}? Is that one f(-x)=-f(x)? Then it would be an odd function then so that:

\int_{-a}^{a} f(x)dx=0

And would be likewise zero if a were infinity and the integral is finite in the interval

\int_0^{\infty} f(x)dx

And I think you can compute:

\int_0^{\infty}x e^{-x^2} dx

right?
 
You are trying to evaluate "e^{\infty}" when you should be looking at "e^{-\infty}.
 
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jackmell said:
Well you know that sin(x) is an odd function right? An odd function means that f(-x)=-f(x) and the function just flips over when it crosses the origin like sin(x) does. So that if f(-x)=-f(x) then surely:

\int_{-1}^{1} f(x)dx=0

if f(x) is odd. Same diff for any symmetric interval like -2 to 2, -100 to 100 even -infty to infty.

So what about the function x e^{-x^2}? Is that one f(-x)=-f(x)? Then it would be an odd function then so that:

\int_{-a}^{a} f(x)dx=0

And would be likewise zero if a were infinity and the integral is finite in the interval

\int_0^{\infty} f(x)dx

And I think you can compute:

\int_0^{\infty}x e^{-x^2} dx

right?

I see what you're talking about. Thanks. I messed up on my math anyway : D
 

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