Impulse that redirects a hockey puck 90°

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The problem involves calculating the impulse experienced by a hockey puck that changes direction and speed after being struck by a hockey stick. The puck initially moves at 18 m/s and is redirected to move at 33 m/s, with a mass of 170 g. The discussion centers around determining the magnitude and direction of the impulse applied to the puck.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using momentum to find impulse, with some attempting to apply the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the impulse's magnitude. There are questions regarding the correctness of initial calculations and the need for more detailed steps in the reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different methods to calculate the impulse, with one suggesting that the initial answer may be incorrect. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations and the assumptions made regarding the direction and magnitude of the impulse.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for the problem. There is also a mention of a potential typo in the provided answer, indicating uncertainty in the established values.

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Homework Statement



An ice hockey player receives a pass so that the puck, with a velocity of 18 m/s, glides across the ice, perpendicularly to the side axis (translation?) of the rink. After a slap shot, the puck moves exactly parallel to side axis of the rink, towards the goal with the velocity 33 m/s. Determine the impulse (magnitude and direction) of the hitting force the hockeystick affected the puck with. The mass of the puck is 170 g.
Answer: Imp=64 Ns , direction 29°.

Sorry for the awkward translation, I hope it is comprehensible!

Homework Equations



Imp=Δp

The Attempt at a Solution



So I take it you have to use the momentum, not Imp=FΔt, since you have all the needed quantities for it. I get the direction right, both the velocity and the momentum vectors are obviously perpendicular so I just use the tangent and get the angle. I have trouble with the magnitude of the impulse however. I understand you can't directly use the equation because of the different directions but I can't fit the impulse magnitude in with the above reasoning and the directions of the puck's momentums.

Any help is appreciated. :)
 
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Hello, Daltohn, welcome to PF!

Can you show more detail of your calculation and state the answer that you got?

I believe that 64 Ns is not the right answer.
 
Hi! My initial thought was to just use the Pythagorian theorem and calculate the magnitude of the vector, whose direction I had calculated to 28.6...°. I'm thinking that the impulse has to "cancel out" p1=0.17kg*18m/s, and also move give the puck p2=0.17kg*33m/s, in p2's direction. So Imp^2=3.06^2+5.61^2=40.83...→Imp=6.39...Ns.
 
And that is very similar indeed to the "correct answer", which means they made a typo. :) Didn't realize!
 
Daltohn said:
Hi! My initial thought was to just use the Pythagorian theorem and calculate the magnitude of the vector, whose direction I had calculated to 28.6...°. I'm thinking that the impulse has to "cancel out" p1=0.17kg*18m/s, and also move give the puck p2=0.17kg*33m/s, in p2's direction. So Imp^2=3.06^2+5.61^2=40.83...→Imp=6.39...Ns.

I think that's right.
 

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