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The discussion revolves around finding a specific condition for the solution of a differential equation, specifically in the context of the equation 7t^2(dx/dt) + 3x + 5 = 0. The original poster is attempting to determine the value of k such that x(t) = k, where k is related to an exponential constant.

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  • The original poster presents two forms of the solution and expresses confusion regarding the value of k or c needed for x(t) = k. Some participants suggest potential steps and transformations, while others question the need for an initial condition to determine specific values.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and discussing the implications of initial conditions on the solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the transformation of the equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution.

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There is mention of constraints related to the online submission system, which does not accept variable inputs as solutions. Additionally, the need for an initial condition to fix integration constants is highlighted, but it remains unclear if such a condition has been provided in the original problem.

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Ok, I've been working this one out for a while, and I just can't seem to get it.

I'm looking for the condition such that x(t)=k (where in our class, K generally equals e^c)

The initial equation is as such:

7t^2(dx/dt)+3x+5=0

I've worked the equation down to two different forms:

x = (-e^((3/7t)-3c)-5)/3

and

x = c*e^(3/7t) - 3/5

For the life of me, I can't figure out what K (or C I suppose) equals in order so that x(t) = k

This is online work, and it only accepts a precise answer for credit.

It's also not letting me enter the variable t as an answer for c (or K), so I'm wondering if there's maybe an error in what was programmed as the correct answer.

I'm sure there's something I'm missing or another way that I need to work the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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You didn't show all your steps but I assume one of your steps might have been:

[tex]\ln (3x+5) = \frac 3 {7t} + 3C[/tex]

leading to

[tex]3x+5 = e^{\frac 3 {7t}+3C}[/tex]

You would normally write this

[tex]3x+5 = e^{3C}e^{\frac 3 {7t}}[/tex]

and rename the e3C as K. Try that.
 
It's still not letting me enter in a variable as a solution.

I worked it out as shown (thank you).

So:

k = (ke^(3/7t) - 5)/3

or working with k = e^c

((k^3)e^(3/7t)-5)/3

In either case, it's still not letting me enter in any variables. If there's a solution to this problem that's all constants, I can't seem to find it. The only solutions I can come up with all involve the variable t.
 
I'm a bit confused about what you're looking for. x(t)=k would only hold for some particular value of t, call it [tex]t_0[/tex] and you haven't stated such an initial condition [tex]x(t_0) =k[/tex]. Has one been specified in the problem?

Secondly you refer to a "solution to this problem that's all constants," but you have already found one, which is the particular solution [tex]x_p = -5/3[/tex]. This is of course different from an initial condition.
 
fzero,

I punched in -5/3 and it said it was correct. When you say different initial conditions, what condition are you talking about? I'm not quite following that.
 
What I mean is when you have an equation y' = y and are given the initial condition y(0) =1. The general solution is y = c et, but the initial condition requires that c=1. In general you need an initial condition if you want to fix an integration constant.
 

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