Inclined plane/Static Friction Problem

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The problem involves a crate resting on an inclined plane, requiring the determination of the coefficient of static friction given a horizontal force needed to initiate movement down the incline. The subject area includes concepts of static friction, forces on inclined planes, and normal force calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied force, friction force, and normal force, with some questioning the calculation of the normal force due to the horizontal applied force. There are attempts to clarify the components of forces acting on the crate.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the calculation of the normal force and its impact on the friction force. Some have expressed uncertainty about their approaches, and there is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct method to find the normal force.

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Participants are navigating the complexities introduced by the horizontal force affecting the normal force, and there is a focus on ensuring all components of the forces are accounted for in the calculations.

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1. A 250-kg crate rests on a surface that is inclined above the horizontal at an angle of 21.8°. A horizontal force (magnitude = 515 N and parallel to the ground, not the incline) is required to start the crate moving down the incline. What is the coefficient of static friction between the crate and the incline?



2. Ffsmgcosθ
Fapplied=Fparallelcosθ




3. I made Fparallel equal to Ff. When I solved it I got a coefficient of static friction of .244, but apparently it's not correct.
 
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newport said:
Ffsmgcosθ
Careful here. The friction force equals μN, but N ≠ mgcosθ. The horizontal force changes the normal force, since it has a component perpendicular to the surface.

Figure out the normal force, then you can redo the problem.
 
I got practically the same answer.
 
How did you solve for the normal force?
 
I found the y component of the applied force and then added that to the normal force of the crate on the plane.
 
newport said:
I found the y component of the applied force and then added that to the normal force of the crate on the plane.
I don't quite understand. Do you mean: N = Fsinθ + mgcosθ? If so, that's not quite correct.
 
I used \frac{tan21.8}{515} to find it, not Fsinθ.
 
newport said:
I used \frac{tan21.8}{515} to find it, not Fsinθ.
I don't understand what that represents.

To find the normal force, consider all forces acting on the crate perpendicular to the surface:
- y component of 515 N force (up)
- Normal force (up)
- y component of weight (down)

They must add to 0. That let's you solve for the normal force.
 

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