Incorrect Textbook Answer involving kinematics?

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving the calculation of acceleration based on initial and final velocities and distance. The original poster expresses concern that their calculated acceleration differs significantly from a textbook answer, prompting questions about unit conversions and potential errors in reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants examine the calculations presented, questioning the unit conversions from meters to kilometers and the implications of the resulting acceleration on the time required to stop. Some participants suggest performing sanity checks to validate the results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants engaging in checks of the calculations and conversions. There is recognition of the potential for error in unit conversion, and some participants share their thoughts on the implications of the calculated values, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the significant difference in scale between the distance of 80 m and the stated 80,000 km, which raises questions about the original problem setup and assumptions regarding the values used.

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This is actually from a Calculus textbook.

A car is traveling at 100 km/hr when the driver sees an accident 80 m ahead and slams on the breaks. What constant deceleration is needed to stop the car in time to avoid a multi-car pileup.

Book says the answer is 62,500 km/hr^2.

I teach Calculus (not for very long) and the book wants students to do this from an antiderivative perspective. I did not get the answer the book states. I used my prior Physics knowledge and used the "timeless" equation for distance to check my answer and did not get that answer the the book says. I just need someone to double check my work to see if it is safe to say the book is incorrect.
Relevant Equations
vf^2 = vi^2 + 2ax
vf=0 km/hr
vi = 100 km/hr
x = 80,000 km

vf2 = vi2+2ax

0 = 100^2 + 2a(80,000)

160,000a = -10000

a = -0.0625 km/hr^2

This is off by 1,000,000 times from the textbook answer. Am I missing something with units or something or is the book wrong?
 
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canaanbowman said:
x = 80,000 km
Which is 1,000,000 times the given 80 m
 
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Apart from what @haruspex said above, a sanity check is always in order. If acceleration was 0.0625 km/h^2 then it would take 100 km/h / 0.0625 km/h^2 = 1600 h > 2 months to stop. This is obviously longer than necessary to cover a distance of 80 m at a mean speed of 50 km/h.
 
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haruspex said:
Which is 1,000,000 times the given 80 m
 
There it is! Glad to see I'm not crazy, just careless with the direction a decimal should move sometimes :)
 
Orodruin said:
Apart from what @haruspex said above, a sanity check is always in order. If acceleration was 0.0625 km/h^2 then it would take 100 km/h / 0.0625 km/h^2 = 1600 h > 2 months to stop. This is obviously longer than necessary to cover a distance of 80 m at a mean speed of 50 km/h.
HAHA yes you are correct. Thanks! The direction a decimal moves when converting something as simple as meters to km can make or break you!
 
canaanbowman said:
HAHA yes you are correct. Thanks! The direction a decimal moves when converting something as simple as meters to km can make or break you!
Especially if you're driving the car.
 
kuruman said:
Especially if you're driving the car.
If I was driving the car I would probably just slam the breaks instead of starting to compute the required acceleration ;)
 
canaanbowman said:
HAHA yes you are correct. Thanks! The direction a decimal moves when converting something as simple as meters to km can make or break you!
An even simpler sanity check is realizing that 80 m is about the length of a football field whereas 80000 km is about twice the circumference of the Earth.
 

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