Increase Functions: e^x and lnx

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The discussion revolves around the properties of exponential and logarithmic functions, specifically focusing on the function e^x and its inverse, lnx. Participants explore the behavior of these functions, particularly in relation to their derivatives and whether other functions exhibit similar properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the increasing nature of e^x and question whether decreasing functions can exist with similar properties. There is confusion regarding the relationship between a function and its derivative, particularly in the context of the inverse function's derivative.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the function and its derivative, while others are seeking clarification on specific points, such as the conditions under which the derivative is non-negative. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to understand the mathematical relationships involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the codomain of the function and the implications of its behavior, as well as a misunderstanding regarding the notation used for functions and their inverses. Some participants express urgency in needing assistance before a deadline.

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I'm not too sure about this, I thought as a example function e^x, where I can say as x gets larger then so does e^x and then so does its derivative at those values of x.

But what if it was a function where as x increased the function was getting smaller, and so it would be a decreasing function.. or perhaps it doesn't matter and I should assume a function like that doesn't exist?

Is there any other function with that property other than e^x?

Really confused about the second part, taking e^x as an example, then then inverse would be lnx, and its derivative 1/x. Then surely I'm supposed to assume all they are talking about here is e^x, since no other f'(x) can take the form of 1/x other than f(x) = lnx...
 
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since f(x)=f`(x) and codomain is R+ f`(x) is always > 0 hence increasing.
 
f(x) said:
since f(x)=f`(x) and codomain is R+ f`(x) is always > 0 hence increasing.

Would that be considered a proof?
 
What f(x) said is not quite true. f is NOT into R+ and the f ' is NOT always "> 0" but close:
Your problem tells you that f(x) is never negative and that f'(x)= f(x) for all x. That is, f'(x) is never negative. What does that tell you?
 
Ah I see, the second part though, so far I can say the slope of the inverse function would be given by 1/f'(x).

Can someone tell me if the question is asking for the derivative of the inverse function, or the inverse of the derivative?

Edit:

I see it's asking for the derivative of the inverse function, so what I did was this:

the slope of the inverse would be 1/f'(x) = dx/dy taking y = f(x)

then I went on to say that 1/f'(x) = (f -1)' (x) (derivative the inverse of f(x))

So howdo i show this is 1/x ?
 
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gta hand this in in 30 mins, hoping someone will read this and help :(
 
You are confusing x and y in y= f(x) and x= f-1(y).
 
HallsofIvy said:
What f(x) said is not quite true. f is NOT into R+ and the f ' is NOT always "> 0" but close:
Your problem tells you that f(x) is never negative and that f'(x)= f(x) for all x. That is, f'(x) is never negative. What does that tell you?
Hello sir,
Pardon me but could you please explain why f`(x) >= 0 and not f`(x) > 0 since the codomain of f(x) has an interval (0,∞) exclusive while f(x) = f`(x)
Thanks
 
You are right, I was wrong. I misread [itex](0, \infty)[/itex] as [itex][0, \infty)[/itex].
 

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