Indefinite integral involving arctan and ln

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The discussion revolves around the indefinite integral of the function involving arctan and the natural logarithm, specifically ∫ 1/x arctan(lnx) dx. Participants are exploring the methods of integration, particularly substitution and integration by parts.

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  • Participants discuss using u-substitution with u = ln x and the subsequent integration by parts. There are attempts to clarify the variable naming conventions and the implications of mixing variables during integration.

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There is an ongoing examination of the original poster's approach, with some participants pointing out potential errors in variable assignment and suggesting clearer naming conventions. The conversation highlights confusion around the integration steps and the need for clarity in notation.

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Participants express concern over the mixing of variables in the integration process, which may lead to misunderstandings. There is also mention of formatting issues that complicate the presentation of the solution steps.

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Homework Statement



∫ 1/x arctan (lnx) dx


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1.U substitution. SO u = ln x, du= 1/x dx
∫ arctan u du

2.by parts: u = arctan u du = 1/ 1+u^2
v = 1 dv = du

3. uv - ∫vdu = artan u - ∫ 1/ 1+u^2
= arctan u - artan u = 0

Did I answer this right?
 
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If du=dv, then v=u, not v=1! I'd also suggest when you get to ∫ arctan u du and if you want to use u and v for the variables in the integration by parts you change that to ∫ arctan w dw. Otherwise the variable naming gets really confusing.
 
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Also, u = arctan(u) du doesn't make sense! If you already did u-substitution, use v and w for integration by parts so your variables don't get mixed up.
 
scurty said:
Also, u = arctan(u) du doesn't make sense! If you already did u-substitution, use v and w for integration by parts so your variables don't get mixed up.

I think applejack meant u=arctan(u), which also doesn't make sense, and is part of the variable naming problem.
 
Dick said:
I think applejack meant u=arctan(u), which also doesn't make sense, and is part of the variable naming problem.

You're right, he did, the du part is when he took the derivative.

I'm used to putting the four equations (u, dv, du, v) in a box shape in my scratch work so I always get confused when it is formatted poorly on websites. Regardless, in addition to changing the variable, there should have been a comma inserted there.
 

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