Indefinite Integration by exchange of variables

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The discussion revolves around the process of indefinite integration, specifically focusing on the substitution method involving the integral of the expression \(\int (4x+1)^{3} + (4x+1)^{2}+(4x+1) dx\). Participants are examining the transformation of variables and the derivation of differential elements in the context of integration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how the differential \(dx\) is expressed as \(\frac{1}{4}du\) after substituting \(u = 4x + 1\). They question the lack of explanation for this step in the provided solution.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the reasoning behind the manipulation of differentials, with one suggesting an interpretation involving derivatives. There is no explicit consensus on the explanation, but the discussion is actively engaging with the underlying concepts.

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The original poster expresses confusion over the steps in the integration process, particularly regarding the transformation of \(dx\) and the notation used in the context of integration. This indicates a potential gap in understanding the relationship between differentials and their substitutions.

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Homework Statement



This is only an example but I do not understand what they are doing...

[tex]\int (4x+1)^{3} + (4x+1)^{2}+(4x+1) dx[/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex]\int f(u) du = F(g(x)) + C[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Let

[tex]u = 4x+1[/tex]

then

[tex]du = 4 dx[/tex]

and

[tex]dx = \frac {1}{4}du[/tex]

how did they get that dx was 1/4? There are no steps to explain this, it just lists them as having that value.

So after substituting the problem should look like this:

[tex]\int (u^{3} + u^{2} + u) * \frac {1}{4} du[/tex]

which is this:

[tex]\frac{1}{4}(\frac{u^{4}}{4} + \frac {u^{3}}{3} + \frac {u^{2}}{2}) + C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{4}[\frac {(4x+1)^{4}}{4}+\frac{(4x+1)^{3}}{3}+\frac{(4x+1)^{2}}{2}] +C[/tex]

So I suppose the only portion that I really don't understand is how they got the 1/4 dx value out of seemingly nothing...
 
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Asphyxiated said:

Homework Statement



This is only an example but I do not understand what they are doing...

[tex]\int (4x+1)^{3} + (4x+1)^{2}+(4x+1) dx[/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex]\int f(u) du = F(g(x)) + C[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Let

[tex]u = 4x+1[/tex]

then

[tex]du = 4 dx[/tex]

and

[tex]dx = \frac {1}{4}du[/tex]

how did they get that dx was 1/4? There are no steps to explain this, it just lists them as having that value.

So after substituting the problem should look like this:

[tex]\int (u^{3} + u^{2} + u) * \frac {1}{4} du[/tex]

which is this:

[tex]\frac{1}{4}(\frac{u^{4}}{4} + \frac {u^{3}}{3} + \frac {u^{2}}{2}) + C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{4}[\frac {(4x+1)^{4}}{4}+\frac{(4x+1)^{3}}{3}+\frac{(4x+1)^{2}}{2}] +C[/tex]

So I suppose the only portion that I really don't understand is how they got the 1/4 dx value out of seemingly nothing...

[tex]du = 4 dx[/tex] solve this for [tex]dx[/tex]
 
I guess I just didn't really think about it all that hard... I got another question though, but Ill post it in a new thread
 
Your solution is correct.
 
There appears to be many notations and definitions of "dy" where y is a dummy variable. Some authors chose to define dy, while others leave it at "no meaning". I came across one interpretation that might help you...

du/dx = 4 = 4 dx/dx

So, (1/4) du/dx = dx/dx

By suppressing the denominator, we get,

(1/4) du = dx

Keeping in mind that the denominator is still there. That is, "dy" is shorthand for "dy/dx".

I like this interpretation because it does not appear to manipulate du/dx like a fraction.

Hope this helps!
 

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