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PAllen said:But the derivatives are completely determined by the function. I cannot say choose function f, and independently choose g as its first partial, for example.
Given a function v(x), suppose a system at any given x is characterized by the values v, 2v, and 3v. This system has three components, but only one independent component, because once you tell me the value of (say) v at a given point, the values of 2v and 3v are fully determined. We cannot arbitrarily choose three numbers a0,a1,a2 and claim that these characterize the state of a possible system at a given point, because in general we can’t find a value of v such that v = a0, 2v = a1, and 3v = a2.
But now suppose the system at any given x is characterized by the values v, dv/dx, and d^2v/dx^2. This system too has three components, but how many independent components? Still just one? No, in general it has three independent components. We can arbitrarily choose three numbers a0,a1,a2 and find a function v(x) such that v = a0, dv/dx = a1, and d^2/dx^2 = a2 at the given point. For example, at the origin we can expand v(x) = a0 + a1 x + a2/2 x^2 + …, and we can freely choose a0, a1, and a2. Likewise we can expand the function about any point, and choose the coefficients of the expansion independently. So the system is characterized by three independent components at any given point.
PAllen said:If at a given point, I choose a functional value and set of derivatives, fine, but this greatly constrains choices at nearby points.
True, but the question of how the values and derivatives of a function (or the components of a tensor) at one point constrain the values at neighboring points is completely different from the question of how many independent components there are at a given point. By specifying a value of a continuous function at x0, the value at x0+dx for sufficiently small dx is constrained to approach the value at x0, but we don't thereby say the function has zero degrees of freedom. This is just the definition of continuity.