Index Gymnastics: Tensor Product of 4-Vectors & Tensors

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The discussion centers around the tensor product of a general 4-vector and a rank two tensor in Minkowski space, specifically addressing the complications arising from having a common contravariant index. Participants explore the implications of index notation and the resulting tensor ranks.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the correct method to take the tensor product of a 4-vector and a tensor, expressing confusion over shared indices.
  • Another participant asserts that the tensor product results in a rank 3 tensor, emphasizing that index names do not carry intrinsic meaning and suggesting the use of distinct index labels.
  • A third participant confirms that the product of a vector and a rank two tensor yields a rank three tensor, and explains the need for index contraction to achieve a single index result, detailing the process of lowering an index using the metric.
  • A later reply indicates that the original expectation of a single index result may stem from a misleading use of the term tensor product in an old thesis, expressing gratitude for the clarifications provided.

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Participants generally agree on the mechanics of tensor products and index contraction, but there is no consensus on the terminology used, particularly regarding the term "tensor product" and its implications for the expected output.

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The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in index notation and the importance of clarity in terminology when discussing tensor operations. There are unresolved considerations regarding the choice of symbols and their implications in different contexts (e.g., flat vs. curved spacetime).

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Hi all, I'm pretty rusty on my index gymnastics, I'm wondering if someone can explain to me the correct way to take the tensor product of a general 4-vector ## g^{\mu} ## and a tensor ## P^{/mu\ /nu} ## in Minkowski space. The part that is troubling me is the fact that both have a ## \mu ## as a contravariant index. Many thanks in advance for your help.
 
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The tensor product would be a rank 3 tensor ##g^\sigma P^{\mu\nu}##. The names of the indices does not have any intrinsic meaning. If you want the tensor product, you simply should not call indices in the different tensors the same.
 
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As Orodruin says, the product of a vector and a rank two tensor is a rank three tensor, ##T^{\mu\nu\sigma}=g^\mu P^{\nu\sigma}##.

If you are expecting a single index in the output, you need to contract the vector with the tensor. First you need to lower an index, either the one on your vector or the one on the tensor you want to contract over, using the metric ##\eta_{\mu\nu}##. Then you can sum over the indices you intend to contract. So ##g_\mu=\eta_{\mu\nu}g^\nu##, then your final result (assuming you want to contract with the first index on ##P##) is ##v^\nu=g_\mu P^{\mu\nu}##.

Note that the metric in flat spacetime is denoted ##\eta_{\mu\nu}## by convention, but in curved spacetime ##g_{\mu\nu}## is usually used. You can't confuse the rank two metric tensor with a vector, but nonetheless ##g## is probably a bad choice of symbol.
 
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Thanks for your replies! I am just trying to follow the working in an old thesis. I am expecting a single index result in the form of a force so I think their use of the term tensor product was in fact a little misleading.
Thanks again, this has been very helpful!
 

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